From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jiri Kosina Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mincore: allow for making sys_mincore() privileged Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 20:24:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Vlastimil Babka Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Greg KH , Peter Zijlstra , Michal Hocko , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 5 Jan 2019, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > There are possibilities [1] how mincore() could be used as a converyor of > > a sidechannel information about pagecache metadata. > > > > Provide vm.mincore_privileged sysctl, which makes it possible to mincore() > > start returning -EPERM in case it's invoked by a process lacking > > CAP_SYS_ADMIN. > > Haven't checked the details yet, but wouldn't it be safe if anonymous private > mincore() kept working, and restrictions were applied only to page cache? I was considering that, but then I decided not to do so, as that'd make the interface even more confusing and semantics non-obvious in the 'privileged' case. > > The default behavior stays "mincore() can be used by anybody" in order to > > be conservative with respect to userspace behavior. > > What if we lied instead of returned -EPERM, to not break userspace so > obviously? I guess false positive would be the safer lie? So your proposal basically would be if (privileged && !CAP_SYS_ADMIN) if (pagecache) return false; else return do_mincore() right ? I think userspace would hate us for that semantics, but on the other hand I can sort of understand the 'mincore() is racy anyway, so what' argument, if that's what you are suggesting. But then, I have no idea what userspace is using mincore() for. https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=mincore might provide some insight I guess (thanks Matthew). -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs