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From: "Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund@ragnatech.se>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dmaengine@vger.kernel.org" <dmaengine@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	geert+renesas@glider.be, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/9] dma-mapping: add dma_{map,unmap}_resource
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:58:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160311125846.GF1111@bigcity.dyn.berto.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160311111522.GA3450@infradead.org>

Hi all,

Thanks for your comments.

On 2016-03-11 03:15:22 -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:47:10PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > I think it is confusing to use the dma_ prefix for this peer-to-peer
> > mmio functionality.  dma_addr_t is a device's view of host memory.
> > Something like bus_addr_t bus_map_resource().  Doesn't this routine
> > also need the source device in addition to the target device?  The
> > resource address is from the perspective of the host cpu, it may be a
> > different address space in the view of two devices relative to each
> > other.
> 
> Is it supposed to be per-mmio?  It's in dma-mapping ops, and has dma
> in the name, so I suspected it's for some form of peer dma.  But given
> that our dma APIs reuqire a struct page backing I have no idea how this
> even supposed to work, and this little documentation blurb still doesn't
> clear that up.
> 
> So for now I'd like to NAK this patch until the use case can be
> explained clearly, and actually works.

I can explain the use case and maybe we can figure out if this approach 
is the correct one to solve it.

The problem is that I have devices behind an IOMMU which I would like to 
use with DMA. Vinod recently moved forward with his and Linus Walleij
patch '[PATCH] dmaengine: use phys_addr_t for slave configuration' which 
clarifies that the DMA slave address provided by a client is the 
physical address. This puts the task of mapping the DMA slave address 
from a phys_addr_t to a dma_addr_t on the DMA engine.

Without an IOMMU this is easy since the phys_addr_t and dma_addr_t are 
the same and no special care is needed. However if you have a IOMMU you 
need to map the DMA slave phys_addr_t to a dma_addr_t using something 
like this. Is it not very similar to dma_map_single() where one maps 
processor virtual memory (instead if MMIO) so that it can be used with 
DMA slaves?

-- 
Regards,
Niklas Söderlund

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-11 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-08  2:42 [PATCH v5 0/9] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42 ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] iommu: Add MMIO mapping type Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]   ` <1457404974-1800-2-git-send-email-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 11:18     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-17 11:18       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-08  2:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] dma-mapping: add {map,unmap}_resource to dma_map_ops Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42   ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found] ` <1457404974-1800-1-git-send-email-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] dma-mapping: add dma_{map,unmap}_resource Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  7:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-10 16:05       ` Niklas S??derlund
2016-03-10 16:05         ` Niklas S??derlund
2016-03-11  6:19         ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11  6:19           ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11  6:47         ` Dan Williams
2016-03-11  6:47           ` Dan Williams
2016-03-11 11:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 12:58             ` Niklas Söderlund [this message]
2016-03-11 12:58               ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-15  8:22               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <20160315082254.GE9136-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 11:33                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-17 11:33                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-21 15:26                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-21 15:26                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                       ` <20160321152601.GA11674-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 13:29                         ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-13 13:29                           ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-21  9:48                           ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-21  9:48                             ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-21 13:49                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-21 13:49                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-25 14:26                             ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-25 14:26                               ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-25 19:10                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-25 19:10                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                 ` <20160425191004.GA13906-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 13:29                                   ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-04-26 13:29                                     ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]           ` <CAPcyv4gO4EZnBuVKXT8+gsMhbHJzuK7sfr0uRcjVdJP-nUUz4A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-11 13:46             ` Robin Murphy
2016-03-11 13:46               ` Robin Murphy
2016-03-11 17:51               ` Dan Williams
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] arm: dma-mapping: add {map, unmap}_resource for iommu ops Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` [PATCH v5 4/9] arm: dma-mapping: add {map,unmap}_resource " Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: slave address are physical Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]     ` <1457404974-1800-6-git-send-email-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 11:30       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-17 11:30         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: group slave configuration Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` Niklas Söderlund
     [not found]     ` <1457404974-1800-7-git-send-email-niklas.soderlund+renesas-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 11:28       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-17 11:28         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] dmaengine: rcar-dmac: add iommu support for slave transfers Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] ARM: dts: r8a7790: add iommus to dmac0 and dmac1 Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42     ` Niklas Söderlund
2016-03-08  2:42 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] ARM: dts: r8a7791: " Niklas Söderlund

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