From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456FBC388F9 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D145622384 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2406558AbgJUMQF (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:16:05 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:58612 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2406506AbgJUMQF (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:16:05 -0400 Received: from gaia (unknown [95.145.162.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 600622224B; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:15:59 +0100 From: Catalin Marinas To: Marc Zyngier Cc: Qais Yousef , Will Deacon , "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" , Morten Rasmussen , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linus Torvalds , James Morse , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: Export id_aar64fpr0 via sysfs Message-ID: <20201021121559.GB3976@gaia> References: <20201021104611.2744565-1-qais.yousef@arm.com> <20201021104611.2744565-5-qais.yousef@arm.com> <63fead90e91e08a1b173792b06995765@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63fead90e91e08a1b173792b06995765@kernel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 12:09:58PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote: > On 2020-10-21 11:46, Qais Yousef wrote: > > Example output. I was surprised that the 2nd field (bits[7:4]) is > > printed out > > although it's set as FTR_HIDDEN. > > > > # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/regs/identification/id_aa64pfr0 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > > > # echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/enable_asym_32bit > > > > # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/regs/identification/id_aa64pfr0 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000012 > > 0x0000000000000012 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > 0x0000000000000011 > > This looks like a terrible userspace interface. It exposes unrelated > features, Not sure why the EL1 field ended up in here, that's not relevant to the user. > and doesn't expose the single useful information that the kernel has: > the cpumask describing the CPUs supporting AArch32 at EL0. Why not expose > this synthetic piece of information which requires very little effort from > userspace and doesn't spit out unrelated stuff? I thought the whole idea is to try and avoid the "very little effort" part ;). > Not to mention the discrepancy with what userspace gets while reading > the same register via the MRS emulation. > > Granted, the cpumask doesn't fit the cpu*/regs/identification hierarchy, > but I don't think this fits either. We already expose MIDR and REVIDR via the current sysfs interface. We can expand it to include _all_ the other ID_* regs currently available to user via the MRS emulation and we won't have to debate what a new interface would look like. The MRS emulation and the sysfs info should probably match, though that means we need to expose the ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.EL0 field which we currently don't. I do agree that an AArch32 cpumask is an easier option both from the kernel implementation perspective and from the application usability one, though not as easy as automatic task placement by the scheduler (my first preference, followed by the id_* regs and the aarch32 mask, though not a strong preference for any). -- Catalin