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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org On 30.09.20 17:17, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:45 +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 30.09.20 16:39, James Bottomley wrote: >>> On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 13:27 +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 05:15:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 05:58:13PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:12:16PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> It will drop them down to 4k pages. Given enough inodes, >>>>>>> and allocating only a single sekrit page per pmd, we'll >>>>>>> shatter the directmap into 4k. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? Secretmem allocates PMD-size page per inode and uses it >>>>>> as a pool of 4K pages for that inode. This way it ensures >>>>>> that __kernel_map_pages() is always called on PMD boundaries. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, you unmap the 2m page upfront? I read it like you did the >>>>> unmap at the sekrit page alloc, not the pool alloc side of >>>>> things. >>>>> >>>>> Then yes, but then you're wasting gobs of memory. Basically you >>>>> can pin 2M per inode while only accounting a single page. >>>> >>>> Right, quite like THP :) >>>> >>>> I considered using a global pool of 2M pages for secretmem and >>>> handing 4K pages to each inode from that global pool. But I've >>>> decided to waste memory in favor of simplicity. >>> >>> I can also add that the user space consumer of this we wrote does >>> its user pool allocation at a 2M granularity, so nothing is >>> actually wasted. >> >> ... for that specific user space consumer. (or am I missing >> something?) > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean? It's designed to be either > the standard wrapper or an example of how to do the standard wrapper > for the syscall. It uses the same allocator system glibc uses for > malloc/free ... which pretty much everyone uses instead of calling > sys_brk directly. If you look at the granularity glibc uses for > sys_brk, it's not 4k either. Okay thanks, "the user space consumer of this we wrote" didn't sound as generic to me as "the standard wrapper". -- Thanks, David / dhildenb