linux-arch.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com>,
	Stan Skowronek <stan@corellium.com>,
	Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	DTML <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SERIAL DRIVERS" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:GENERIC INCLUDE/ASM HEADER FILES" 
	<linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 21:29:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a0_GBB-VYFO5NaySyBJDN2Ra-WMH4WfFrnzgOejmJVG8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqJHRM59GC3FjvaGLCELemy1uspnGvTEFH6q0OdyBPVSjA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 4:56 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 2:17 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 7:18 PM Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st> wrote:
>
> > > > What's the code path using these functions on the M1 where we need to
> > > > return 'posted'? It's just downstream PCI mappings (PCI memory space),
> > > > right? Those would never hit these paths because they don't have a DT
> > > > node or if they do the memory space is not part of it. So can't the
> > > > check just be:
> > > >
> > > > bool of_mmio_is_nonposted(struct device_node *np)
> > > > {
> > > >      return np && of_machine_is_compatible("apple,arm-platform");
> > > > }
> > >
> > > Yes; the implementation was trying to be generic, but AIUI we don't need
> > > this on M1 because the PCI mappings don't go through this codepath, and
> > > nothing else needs posted mode. My first hack was something not too
> > > unlike this, then I was going to get rid of apple,arm-platform and just
> > > have this be a generic mechanism with the properties, but then we added
> > > the optimization to not do the lookups on other platforms, and now we're
> > > coming full circle... :-)
> >
> > I never liked the idea of having a list of platforms that need a
> > special hack, please let's not go back to that.
>
> I'm a fan of generic solutions as much as anyone, but not when there's
> a single user. Yes, there could be more, but we haven't seen any yet
> and Apple seems to have a knack for doing special things. I'm pretty
> sure posted vs. non-posted has been a possibility with AXI buses from
> the start, so it's not like this is a new thing we're going to see
> frequently on new platforms.

Ok, but if we make it a platform specific bit, I would prefer not
to do the IORESOURCE_MEM_NONPOSTED flag either but
instead keep the logic in the device drivers that call ioremap().

This is obviously more work for the drivers, but at least it keeps
the common code free of the hack while also allowing drivers to
use ioremap_np() intentionally on other platforms.

> The other situation I worry about here is another arch has implicitly
> defaulted to non-posted instead of posted. It could just be non-posted
> was what worked everywhere and Linux couldn't distinguish. Now someone
> sees we have this new posted vs. non-posted handling and can optimize
> some mappings on their platform and we have to have per arch defaults
> (like 'dma-coherent' now).

I think one of the dark secrets of MMIO is that a lot of drivers
get the posted behavior wrong by assuming that a writel() before
a spin_unlock() is protected by that unlock. This may in fact work
on many architectures but is broken on PCI and on local devices
for ARM.

Having a properly working (on non-PCI) ioremap_np() interface
would be nice here, as it could be used to document when drivers
rely on non-posted behavior, and cause the ioremap to fail when
running on architectures that don't support nonposted maps.

       Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-04 21:38 [RFT PATCH v3 00/27] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 01/27] arm64: Cope with CPUs stuck in VHE mode Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:05   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 20:00     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-26  7:54       ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 02/27] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add apple prefix Hector Martin
2021-03-08 20:26   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 03/27] dt-bindings: arm: apple: Add bindings for Apple ARM platforms Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:16   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 20:27   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 04/27] dt-bindings: arm: cpus: Add apple,firestorm & icestorm compatibles Hector Martin
2021-03-08 20:27   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 05/27] arm64: cputype: Add CPU implementor & types for the Apple M1 cores Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:13   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 06/27] dt-bindings: timer: arm,arch_timer: Add interrupt-names support Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:18   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 11:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-08 17:14   ` Tony Lindgren
2021-03-08 20:38   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-08 22:42     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-09 16:11       ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 20:28         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 07/27] arm64: arch_timer: implement support for interrupt-names Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:19   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 11:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 08/27] asm-generic/io.h: Add a non-posted variant of ioremap() Hector Martin
2021-03-05 14:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:19     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:12   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 19:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-25 14:07       ` Hector Martin
2021-03-25 14:49         ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 09/27] docs: driver-api: device-io: Document I/O access functions Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:22   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 10/27] docs: driver-api: device-io: Document ioremap() variants & access funcs Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:25   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-05 15:09     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 20:29         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 11/27] arm64: Implement ioremap_np() to map MMIO as nGnRnE Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:22   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:18   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:28   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-05 15:13   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:55     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:08       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:43         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-05 17:19           ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:05     ` Rob Herring
2021-03-05 17:39   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-05 18:18     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 21:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-08 15:56         ` Rob Herring
2021-03-08 20:29           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-03-08 21:13             ` Rob Herring
2021-03-08 21:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 15:48                 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 20:23                   ` Hector Martin
2021-03-09 22:06                     ` Rob Herring
2021-03-10  8:26                       ` Hector Martin
2021-03-10 17:01                         ` Rob Herring
2021-03-11  9:12                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 12:11                             ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11 13:35                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 16:07                             ` Rob Herring
2021-03-11 16:48                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 18:10                                 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-12 10:20                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 11:14               ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 12:41                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 15:40                   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 13/27] arm64: Add Apple vendor-specific system registers Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:38   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 18:59     ` Mark Rutland
2021-03-24 19:04       ` Will Deacon
2021-03-26  6:23         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 14/27] arm64: move ICH_ sysreg bits from arm-gic-v3.h to sysreg.h Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:23   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 15/27] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add DT bindings for apple-aic Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:16   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 16/27] irqchip/apple-aic: Add support for the Apple Interrupt Controller Hector Martin
2021-03-05 15:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-08 11:50     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-08 12:02       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-26 13:40     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-08 13:31   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-26  7:57     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-24 19:57   ` Will Deacon
2021-03-26  8:58     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-29 12:04       ` Will Deacon
2021-04-01 13:16         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 17/27] arm64: Kconfig: Introduce CONFIG_ARCH_APPLE Hector Martin
2021-03-08 15:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-09 20:30     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 18/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Separate S3C64XX ops structure Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:30   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 19/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add ucon_mask parameter Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 20/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add s3c24xx_port_type Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:49   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 21/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: IRQ rework Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:17   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:16     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:20       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:29         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-07 11:34           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-07 16:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-07 19:51               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 22/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Use devm_ioremap_resource Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:54   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:19     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 23/27] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple,s5l-uart compatible Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:17   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 24/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add support for Apple UARTs Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:58   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:28   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 17:04     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-07 11:40       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 25/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add earlycon " Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:55   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-10 23:11   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 26/27] dt-bindings: display: Add apple,simple-framebuffer Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:18   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 16:37   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 20:35     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 27/27] arm64: apple: Add initial Apple Mac mini (M1, 2020) devicetree Hector Martin
2021-03-05 11:03   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 11:14     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 11:45       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:59       ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-05 16:50         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:11 ` [RFT PATCH v3 00/27] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Hector Martin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAK8P3a0_GBB-VYFO5NaySyBJDN2Ra-WMH4WfFrnzgOejmJVG8g@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=arnd@kernel.org \
    --cc=andy.shevchenko@gmail.com \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=graf@amazon.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=krzk@kernel.org \
    --cc=linus.walleij@linaro.org \
    --cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-serial@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=marcan@marcan.st \
    --cc=mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=maz@kernel.org \
    --cc=mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com \
    --cc=olof@lixom.net \
    --cc=robh@kernel.org \
    --cc=stan@corellium.com \
    --cc=tony@atomide.com \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    --subject='Re: [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted' \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
on how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox