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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Alex Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Vitaly Wool <vitaly.wool@konsulko.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] RISC-V: enable XIP
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 16:10:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F096121C-8F7A-4E9A-B319-2C5F656610EA@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHBdzPsHantT9r8t@linux.ibm.com>


> Am 09.04.2021 um 15:59 schrieb Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>:
> 
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:46:17PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> Also, will that memory properly be exposed in the resource tree as
>>>>> System RAM (e.g., /proc/iomem) ? Otherwise some things (/proc/kcore)
>>>>> won't work as expected - the kernel won't be included in a dump.
>>> Do we really need a XIP kernel to included in kdump?
>>> And does not it sound weird to expose flash as System RAM in /proc/iomem? ;-)
>> 
>> See my other mail, maybe we actually want something different.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> I have just checked and it does not appear in /proc/iomem.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok your conclusion would be to have struct page, I'm going to implement this
>>>> version then using memblock as you described.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure this is required. With XIP kernel text never gets into RAM, so
>>> it does not seem to require struct page.
>>> 
>>> XIP by definition has some limitations relatively to "normal" operation,
>>> so lack of kdump could be one of them.
>> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I might be wrong, but IMHO, artificially creating a memory map for part of
>>> flash would cause more problems in the long run.
>> 
>> Can you elaborate?
> 
> Nothing particular, just a gut feeling. Usually, when you force something
> it comes out the wrong way later.
> 
>>> 
>>> BTW, how does XIP account the kernel text on other architectures that
>>> implement it?
>> 
>> Interesting point, I thought XIP would be something new on RISC-V (well, at
>> least to me :) ). If that concept exists already, we better mimic what
>> existing implementations do.
> 
> I had quick glance at ARM, it seems that kernel text does not have memory
> map and does not show up in System RAM.
> 

Does it show up in a different way or not at all?

> -- 
> Sincerely yours,
> Mike.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-09  6:51 [PATCH v7] RISC-V: enable XIP Alexandre Ghiti
2021-04-09  7:14 ` Alex Ghiti
2021-04-09  8:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-09 11:39     ` Alex Ghiti
2021-04-09 12:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-09 12:57         ` Alex Ghiti
2021-04-09 14:10         ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-09 14:16           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-09 12:12       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-09 12:46         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-09 13:59           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-09 14:10             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-04-09 14:42             ` Vitaly Wool
2021-04-12  5:12               ` Alex Ghiti
2021-04-12  7:49                 ` Vitaly Wool

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