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From: Alex Belits <abelits@marvell.com>
To: "frederic@kernel.org" <frederic@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v4 10/13] task_isolation: don't interrupt CPUs with tick_nohz_full_kick_cpu()
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 15:22:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab85fd564686845648d08779b1d4ecc3ab440b2a.camel@marvell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201001144454.GB6595@lothringen>


On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 16:44 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> External Email
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:57:33PM +0000, Alex Belits wrote:
> > From: Yuri Norov <ynorov@marvell.com>
> > 
> > For nohz_full CPUs the desirable behavior is to receive interrupts
> > generated by tick_nohz_full_kick_cpu(). But for hard isolation it's
> > obviously not desirable because it breaks isolation.
> > 
> > This patch adds check for it.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Yuri Norov <ynorov@marvell.com>
> > [abelits@marvell.com: updated, only exclude CPUs running isolated
> > tasks]
> > Signed-off-by: Alex Belits <abelits@marvell.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/time/tick-sched.c | 4 +++-
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > index 6e4cd8459f05..2f82a6daf8fc 100644
> > --- a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > +++ b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/sched/clock.h>
> >  #include <linux/sched/stat.h>
> >  #include <linux/sched/nohz.h>
> > +#include <linux/isolation.h>
> >  #include <linux/module.h>
> >  #include <linux/irq_work.h>
> >  #include <linux/posix-timers.h>
> > @@ -268,7 +269,8 @@ static void tick_nohz_full_kick(void)
> >   */
> >  void tick_nohz_full_kick_cpu(int cpu)
> >  {
> > -	if (!tick_nohz_full_cpu(cpu))
> > +	smp_rmb();
> 
> What is it ordering?

ll_isol_flags will be read in task_isolation_on_cpu(), that accrss
should be ordered against writing in
task_isolation_kernel_enter(), fast_task_isolation_cpu_cleanup()
and task_isolation_start().

Since task_isolation_on_cpu() is often called for multiple CPUs in a
sequence, it would be wasteful to include a barrier inside it.

> > +	if (!tick_nohz_full_cpu(cpu) || task_isolation_on_cpu(cpu))
> >  		return;
> 
> You can't simply ignore an IPI. There is always a reason for a
> nohz_full CPU
> to be kicked. Something triggered a tick dependency. It can be posix
> cpu timers
> for example, or anything.

I realize that this is unusual, however the idea is that while the task
is running in isolated mode in userspace, we assume that from this CPUs
point of view whatever is happening in kernel, can wait until CPU is
back in kernel, and when it first enters kernel from this mode, it
should "catch up" with everything that happened in its absence.
task_isolation_kernel_enter() is supposed to do that, so by the time
anything should be done involving the rest of the kernel, CPU is back
to normal.

It is application's responsibility to avoid triggering things that
break its isolation, so the application assumes that everything that
involves entering kernel will not be available while it is isolated. If
isolation will be broken, or application will request return from
isolation, everything will go back to normal environment with all
functionality available.

> >  
> >  	irq_work_queue_on(&per_cpu(nohz_full_kick_work, cpu), cpu);
> > -- 
> > 2.26.2
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-04 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-22 14:44 [PATCH v4 00/13] "Task_isolation" mode Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:48 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] task_isolation: vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] task_isolation: userspace hard isolation from kernel Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:49   ` Alex Belits
2020-10-01 13:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-04 14:44     ` [EXT] " Alex Belits
2020-10-04 23:14       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-05 18:52         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2020-10-06 10:35           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  1:13             ` Alex Belits
2020-10-17  1:08           ` Alex Belits
2020-10-17 16:08             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-17 16:15               ` Alex Belits
2020-10-17 20:03                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 11:01         ` Alex Belits
2020-10-01 14:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-04 15:01     ` [EXT] " Alex Belits
     [not found] ` <04be044c1bcd76b7438b7563edc35383417f12c8.camel-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-22 14:47   ` [PATCH v4 01/13] task_isolation: vmstat: add quiet_vmstat_sync function Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:47     ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:51   ` [PATCH v4 04/13] task_isolation: Add task isolation hooks to arch-independent code Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:51     ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:55   ` [PATCH 08/13] task_isolation: arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:55     ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:56   ` [PATCH v4 09/13] task_isolation: arch/arm: " Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:56     ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:58   ` [PATCH v4 11/13] task_isolation: net: don't flush backlog on CPUs running isolated tasks Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:58     ` Alex Belits
2020-10-01 14:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-04 17:12       ` [EXT] " Alex Belits
2021-01-22 14:13       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-01-22 16:13         ` Paolo Abeni
2020-07-22 14:59   ` [PATCH 13/13] task_isolation: kick_all_cpus_sync: don't kick isolated cpus Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:59     ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] task_isolation: Add xen-specific hook Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:51   ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:53 ` [PATCH 06/13] task_isolation: Add driver-specific hooks Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:53   ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:54 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] task_isolation: arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:54   ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] task_isolation: don't interrupt CPUs with tick_nohz_full_kick_cpu() Alex Belits
2020-10-01 14:44   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-04 15:22     ` Alex Belits [this message]
2020-10-06 21:41       ` [EXT] " Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  0:17         ` Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:59 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] task_isolation: ringbuffer: don't interrupt CPUs running isolated tasks on buffer resize Alex Belits
2020-07-22 14:59   ` Alex Belits
2020-07-23 13:17 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] "Task_isolation" mode Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-23 14:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 14:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-23 14:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 15:41     ` [EXT] " Alex Belits
2020-07-23 15:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 15:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 16:19         ` Alex Belits
2020-07-23 16:19           ` Alex Belits
2020-07-23 15:18   ` Alex Belits
     [not found]     ` <831e023422aa0e4cb3da37ceef6fdcd5bc854682.camel-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-23 15:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 15:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-23 16:50         ` Alex Belits
2020-07-23 21:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-23 21:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-24  3:00             ` [EXT] " Alex Belits
2020-07-24 16:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-24 16:08                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-07-23 21:31     ` Thomas Gleixner

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