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From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Overlapping ioremap() calls, set_memory_*() semantics
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:38:40 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1603211721070.25290@eddie.linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160309091525.GA11866@gmail.com>

On Wed, 9 Mar 2016, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> > > So to go back to the original suggestion from Luis, I've quoted it, but
> > > with a s/overlapping/aliased substitution:
> > > 
> > > > I had suggested long ago then that one possible resolution was for us
> > > > to add an API that *enables* aliased ioremap() calls, and only use it
> > > > on select locations in the kernel. This means we only have to convert a
> > > > few users to that call to white list such semantics, and by default
> > > > we'd disable aliased calls. To kick things off -- is this strategy
> > > > agreeable for all other architectures?
> > > 
> > > I'd say that since the overwhelming majority of ioremap() calls are not
> > > aliased, ever, thus making it 'harder' to accidentally alias is probably
> > > a good idea.
> > 
> > Did you mean 'aliased' or 'aliased with different cache attribute'?  The former 
> > check might be too strict.
> 
> I'd say even 'same attribute' aliasing is probably relatively rare.

 Please note that aliased cached mappings (any kinds of, not necessarily 
from `ioremap') cause a lot of headache (read: handling trouble) with 
architectures such as MIPS which support virtually indexed caches which 
suffer from cache aliasing.  There is a risk of data corruption if the 
same physical memory address space location is accessed through different 
virtual mappings as not all hardware catches duplicate cache entries 
created in such a case.

 We handle it in software for user mappings (although I keep having a 
feeling something always keeps escaping, due to the vast diversity of 
cache configurations possible), however I don't think we do for `ioremap', 
so disallowing aliased `ioremap' mappings by default sounds like a good 
idea to me.

 FWIW,

  Maciej

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 21:28 Overlapping ioremap() calls, set_memory_*() semantics Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-03 21:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-04  9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-04 18:18   ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-04 18:18     ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-04 18:51     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-04 21:39       ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-05 11:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-05 11:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-07 17:03       ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-07 17:03         ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-08 12:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09  0:29           ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-09  9:15             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-11 22:13               ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-16  1:45                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-16  1:45                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-17 22:44                   ` Toshi Kani
2016-04-13 21:16                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 14:47                       ` Toshi Kani
2016-04-15 14:47                         ` Toshi Kani
2016-04-16  9:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-16  9:20                           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-21 17:38               ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2016-04-13 21:03                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-11  6:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 22:36           ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-13  1:02             ` Andy Lutomirski

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