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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, "Saidi, Ali" <alisaidi@amazon.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: RNDR/SS vs. SMCCC
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 11:41:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03af6cf4f263f9de4b7dbcf16e8a1c4962347191.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210603011922.1d0e9249@slackpad.fritz.box>

On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 01:19 +0100, Andre Przywara wrote:
> 
> You mean like this?
> https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-ap/-/commit/87e3722f437f9c3f09397e0e9812e6509c94786a

Yes. We have a similar one in Amazon Linux which I think Ali submitted
a while back but never went upstream.

> This is not reviewed nor widely tested, but I used it for assessing the
> quality of the SMCCC provided numbers on the Juno board using rngtest.
> I think one problem was that this opens the SMCCC to userland, so the
> entropy could be depleted from there (again under the assumption that
> this is really a problem in practice).

IMHO, userland can always adjust permission to /dev/hwrng if it wishes
to do so...

> I would be interested to hear opinions on this.

The issue is with things like FIPS certification (and other such
horrors) where I believe /dev/random is much harder to deal with since
it mixes multiple entropy sources.

Cheers,
Ben.



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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-03  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-26 23:54 RNDR/SS vs. SMCCC Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2021-05-27 12:50 ` Mark Brown
2021-05-27 23:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2021-05-28 12:56     ` Mark Brown
2021-05-29  2:36       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2021-05-31  1:02         ` Andre Przywara
2021-05-31  5:24           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-06-02 22:04             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2021-06-03  0:19               ` Andre Przywara
2021-06-03  1:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2021-06-03  7:10                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-06-03 21:30                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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