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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: DTML <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	syadagir@codeaurora.org, Eric Caruso <ejcaruso@google.com>,
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	Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan <subashab@codeaurora.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] net: introduce Qualcomm IPA driver
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 11:18:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fc29577a5c69530145b6095fa1ac1a51949ba8e.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87f98f81-8f77-3bc5-374c-f498e07cb1bd@linaro.org>

On Mon, 2019-06-03 at 10:52 -0500, Alex Elder wrote:
> On 6/3/19 9:54 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > To be perfectly honest, at first I thought having IPA use rmnet
> > > was a cargo cult thing like Dan suggested, because I didn't see
> > To be clear I only meant cargo-culting the naming, not any
> > functionality. Clearly IPA/rmnet/QMAP are pretty intimately
> > connected
> > at this point. But this goes back to whether IPA needs a netdev
> > itself
> > or whether you need an rmnet device created on top. If the former
> > then
> > I'd say no cargo-culting, if the later then it's a moot point
> > because
> > the device name will be rmnet%d anyway.
> 
> OK I thought you weren't sure why rmnet was a layer at all.  As I
> said, I didn't have a very good understanding of why it was even
> needed when I first started working on this.

No problem.

> I can't (or won't) comment right now on whether IPA needs its own
> netdev for rmnet to use.  The IPA endpoints used for the modem
> network interfaces are enabled when the netdev is opened and
> disabled when closed.  Outside of that, TX and RX are pretty
> much immediately passed through to the layer below or above.
> IPA currently has no other net device operations.

I don't really have issues with the patchset underneath the netdev
layer. I'm interested in how the various bits present themselves to
userspace, which is why I am trying to tie this in with Johannes'
conversation about WWAN devices, netdevs, channels, and how the various
drivers present API for creating data channels that map to different
modem contexts.

So let me rephrase. If the control plane has set up the default context
and sent a QMI Start Network message (or the network attached the
default one) and the resulting IP details are applied to the IPA netdev
can things just start sending data? Or do we need to create an rmnet on
top to get that working?

Dan


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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31  3:53 [PATCH v2 00/17] net: introduce Qualcomm IPA driver Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] bitfield.h: add FIELD_MAX() and field_max() Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: add IPA bindings Alex Elder
2019-06-10 22:08   ` Rob Herring
2019-06-11  2:11     ` Alex Elder
2019-07-03 15:09       ` Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] soc: qcom: ipa: main code Alex Elder
2019-05-31 21:50   ` David Miller
2019-05-31 22:25     ` Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] soc: qcom: ipa: configuration data Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] soc: qcom: ipa: clocking, interrupts, and memory Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] soc: qcom: ipa: GSI headers Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] soc: qcom: ipa: the generic software interface Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] soc: qcom: ipa: GSI transactions Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] soc: qcom: ipa: IPA interface to GSI Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] soc: qcom: ipa: IPA endpoints Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] soc: qcom: ipa: immediate commands Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] soc: qcom: ipa: IPA network device and microcontroller Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] soc: qcom: ipa: AP/modem communications Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] soc: qcom: ipa: support build of IPA code Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MAINTAINERS: add entry for the Qualcomm IPA driver Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] arm64: dts: sdm845: add IPA information Alex Elder
2019-05-31  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] arm64: defconfig: enable build of IPA code Alex Elder
2019-05-31 14:58 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] net: introduce Qualcomm IPA driver Dan Williams
2019-05-31 16:36   ` Alex Elder
2019-05-31 19:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-31 20:47       ` Alex Elder
2019-05-31 21:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-31 22:08           ` Alex Elder
2019-06-07 17:43             ` Alex Elder
2019-05-31 23:33         ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-05-31 23:59           ` Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan
2019-06-03 10:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-03 13:32               ` Alex Elder
2019-06-04  8:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-04 15:18                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-04 20:04                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-04 21:29                       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-06 17:42                         ` Alex Elder
2019-06-11  8:12                           ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-11 11:56                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-11 15:53                               ` Dan Williams
2019-06-11 16:52                                 ` Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan
2019-06-11 17:22                                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-12  8:31                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-12 14:27                                       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-12 15:06                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-17 11:42                                           ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-17 12:25                                             ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 15:20                                               ` Alex Elder
2019-06-18 18:06                                                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24 16:21                                                   ` Alex Elder
2019-06-25 14:14                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-26 13:36                                                       ` Alex Elder
2019-06-26 17:55                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 18:48                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-24 16:21                                                   ` Alex Elder
2019-06-18 13:45                                             ` Alex Elder
2019-06-18 19:03                                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 20:09                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 20:15                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 20:33                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 20:39                                                       ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 21:06                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-19 20:56                                                           ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24 16:21                                                 ` Alex Elder
2019-06-24 16:40                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-25 14:19                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-26 13:39                                                       ` Alex Elder
2019-06-26 13:58                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-26 17:48                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-26 17:45                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-26 13:51                                                     ` Alex Elder
2019-06-17 11:28                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 13:16                                 ` Alex Elder
2019-06-18 13:48                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 19:14                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 19:59                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 20:36                                       ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 20:55                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 21:02                                           ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 21:15                                           ` Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan
2019-06-19 12:23                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-19 18:47                                               ` Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan
2019-06-20  1:25                                                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24 16:21                                     ` Alex Elder
2019-06-17 12:14                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-18 14:00                                 ` Alex Elder
2019-06-18 19:22                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-24 16:21                                     ` Alex Elder
2019-06-03 14:50             ` Dan Williams
2019-06-03 14:54         ` Dan Williams
2019-06-03 15:52           ` Alex Elder
2019-06-03 16:18             ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-06-03 19:04               ` Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan
2019-06-04 15:21                 ` Dan Williams
2019-05-31 23:27       ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-10  2:44 ` Alex Elder
2019-06-20 13:41 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] soc: qcom: ipa: clocking, interrupts, and memory Hillf Danton
2019-06-24 16:30 ` WWAN Controller Framework (was IPA [PATCH v2 00/17]) Alex Elder
2019-06-24 17:06   ` Alex Elder
2019-06-25 14:34     ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-26 13:40       ` Alex Elder
2019-06-26 17:58         ` Johannes Berg
2019-06-24 19:54   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-24 21:16     ` Alex Elder

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