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From: jason@lakedaemon.net (Jason Cooper)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 04/10] bus: introduce an Marvell EBU MBus driver
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:27:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130306222712.GP23237@titan.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130306215031.GB4916@obsidianresearch.com>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 02:50:31PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 09:40:36PM +0100, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
...
> > Again, I don't see the point of making the DT binding more complex than
> > the one being proposed here, and you haven't given any really
> > compelling arguments except that it is not to your taste. I believe
> > we're reaching a point where things start to be a matter of taste, and
> > so unless you're writing the code and doing the work yourself, you also
> > have to accept that other people might have different visions of how
> > things should be handled, and therefore have different tastes.
> > 
> > How can we make progress on this, in a *reasonable* way?
> 
> Well, as you say, we've pretty much completed presenting arguments for
> each view on this subject, so it is really up to the gatekeepers of
> the stable DT 'ABI' to decide on how they want this all to look in the
> end, IMHO.
> 
> Jason C/Andrew L/Arnd?

I'm inclined to agree with Thomas.  Since the the first Kirkwood DT
board was added to the tree, it's been pounded into me that DT
*describes hardware*.  Not how random bootloader X happened to configure
it.

However, we also have the example of local-mac-address.  Which is
describing how the hardware is *configured* to present a consistent id
to a network (from bootloader to kernel to userspace).  This is
certainly a valid deviation from the rule.

If a bootloader setup some windows before handing off control to the
kernel (keep in mind, this could be *BSD, windows, BeOS, etc), is there
any /need/ to keep that configuration?

If we are to include Jason's suggestion, I think it should be listed as
optional properties typically inserted at boot by the bootloader as an
FYI.  And, for Thomas' sanity, presented as a future patch on top of
current work. ;-)

At this point, we have at least a few release cycles to shake out a
standard DT binding for Marvell SoCs.  Currently, not a single product
ships with a DT-enabled bootloader.  Not even the development boards
created by Marvell.  So I'm fine with Thomas' bindings as they stand
*and* fine with adjusting them over the next few releases as needed.

It'll be a different story once products start being released with
DT-enabled bootloaders.

thx,

Jason.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-06 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06 13:43 [PATCH 3.10] Introduce a Marvell EBU MBus driver Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 01/10] arm: plat-orion: only build addr-map.c when needed Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 02/10] arm: plat-orion: use mv_mbus_dram_info() in PCIe code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 03/10] arm: mach-orion5x: use mv_mbus_dram_info() in PCI code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 04/10] bus: introduce an Marvell EBU MBus driver Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 19:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-06 19:27     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 20:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-06 20:40         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 21:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-06 22:27             ` Jason Cooper [this message]
2013-03-06 23:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07 10:39                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-08 13:50                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-08 14:06                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-08 15:41                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-08 17:50                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 19:42                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-08 20:05                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 22:46                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-08 17:43                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 22:58                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-07 22:20                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-03-07 23:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08  1:02                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-03-08  8:10                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-08 17:29                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 17:59                         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-03-08 18:31                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 18:53                             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-03-18 16:27                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-18 17:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 15:59                     ` Maxime Bizon
2013-03-08 16:48                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 17:12                         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-03-08  8:14                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-08 18:26                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07  3:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-07  3:37         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-07  6:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 16:48             ` Jason Cooper
2013-03-08 19:47               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-08 22:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-07 10:58           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-07 17:37             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07 19:11               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-07 19:55                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-07 20:28                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-07 20:47                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 05/10] arm: mach-mvebu: convert to use mvebu-mbus driver Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:58   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 06/10] arm: mach-kirkwood: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 19:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-06 19:31     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 07/10] arm: mach-dove: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 08/10] arm: mach-orion5x: " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 09/10] arm: mach-mv78xx0: convert to use the " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 13:43 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm: plat-orion: remove addr-map code Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 16:59 [PATCH v2 for 3.10] Introduce a Marvell EBU MBus driver Thomas Petazzoni
2013-03-06 16:59 ` [PATCH 04/10] bus: introduce an " Thomas Petazzoni

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