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From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow suspend mode
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:18:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170221181849.GG8605@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdX_pot+=rJfY1Kor4gYD4CgBYivngzCLwV36LELx+AA5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 07:06:04PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 05:32:50PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:

> >> How can Linux know if using "deep" suspend will allow to wake-up the system
> >> according to configured wake-up sources, or not?
> >
> > My understanding is that if a device can wake the system from
> > PSCI_SYSTEM_SUSPEND, it should be described in the DT as a wakeup source
> > [1]. So we should be able to determine the set of devices which can wake
> > the system from a suspend. We shouldn't assume that other devices can
> > (though I don't precisely what we do currently).
> >
> > Otherwise, where PSCI_CPU_SUSPEND, we'd expect that most devices
> > (barring cpu-local timers) can wake up CPUs, and hence the system, by
> > raising an interrupt.
> 
> > [1] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/wakeup-source.txt
> 
> "wakeup-source" in DT is used as a mix of hardware description and software
> policy.  E.g. some keys on a keyboard may have it, others don't, while there's
> not always a technical reason for that.
> 
> Also, it doesn't specify from which suspend state it can wake-up.

Joy.

If we need to do something here, we should clarify the semantics of
wakeup-source and/or introduce a property which is explicitly for the
purpose of expressing HW capability to wake up from a specific power
state.

> On top of that, the Linux PM subsystem allows to configure wakeup by writing
> "enabled" to a device's "wakeup" file in sysfs.  Or you can use ethtool for
> Wake-on-LAN.

Sure; userspace can always do something silly here.

As I mentioned in my other reply, we could/should add an interface to
allow userspace to determine if it has a guaranteed wakeup, which would
allow us to do the right thing.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-21 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-20 20:33 [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/6] alarmtimer: Postpone wake-up source registration until really available Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/6] PM / Wakeup: Add wakeup_source_available() Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:42   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:23     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:51       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:07   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 11:14     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:32       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:20         ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 18:06           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:18             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-02-21 18:23               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:22         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:47           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:35             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:50   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:49       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:07   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 16:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:54     ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:48   ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-22 14:05     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:57       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/6] arm64: dts: r8a7795: Fix non-PMIC wake-up sources Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/6] arm64: dts: r8a7796: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:38 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:45     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:34       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:51         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:27           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:45             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22  1:14               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 11:03                 ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:38                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:32                     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 15:24                         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:26                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:34                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:58                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:53                         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:14                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:31                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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