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Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:57356) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyecj-00034q-B3; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:58:41 +0100 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hyecb-00023W-PW; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:58:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:58:33 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin To: Aaro Koskinen Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] [RFC] ARM: remove Intel iop33x and iop13xx support Message-ID: <20190816155833.GL13294@shell.armlinux.org.uk> References: <20190809162956.488941-1-arnd@arndb.de> <20190809163334.489360-1-arnd@arndb.de> <20190812094456.GI10598@jirafa.cyrius.com> <20190816154249.GA30291@darkstar.musicnaut.iki.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190816154249.GA30291@darkstar.musicnaut.iki.fi> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20190816_085916_004151_395A06F8 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 15.28 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Vinod Koul , Peter Teichmann , Arnd Bergmann , Bartosz Golaszewski , Linus Walleij , Linux Kernel Mailing List , "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" , soc@kernel.org, linux-i2c , dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, Dan Williams , Martin Michlmayr , Linux ARM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+infradead-linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 06:42:49PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:36:01AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:45 AM Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > As Arnd points out, Debian used to have support for various iop32x > > > devices. While Debian hasn't supported iop32x in a number of years, > > > these devices are still usable and in use (RMK being a prime example). > > > > I suppose it could be a good idea to add support for iop32x to > > OpenWrt and/or OpenEmbedded, both of which support some > > pretty constrained systems. > > This platform is not really too constrained... E.g. on N2100 you have > 512 MB RAM, SATA disks and gigabit ethernet. Not that different from > mvebu that Debian currently (?) supports. Maybe with multiplatform they > could support iop32x again. Probably not. The kernel has a dividing line between ARMv5 and ARMv6 where it's not possible to multiplatform across that boundary, so you're already needing separate kernel images there. Secondly, armhf distros won't be compatible with ARMv5, and to make them compatible will make performance on armhf suffer - you have to stop using barriers, exclusive load/store and a few other things. You have to rely on the kuser page exported by the kernel (which is now optional as it's deemed to be a security issue for ROP attacks) for some things that such a userspace requires - such as NPTL support. Effectively, ARMv5 is an entirely separate userspace distro from armhf. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 12.1Mbps down 622kbps up According to speedtest.net: 11.9Mbps down 500kbps up _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel