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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/18] alpha: Override READ_ONCE() with barriered implementation
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:48:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200702094833.GA16248@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200702093239.GA15391@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 10:32:39AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:37:20PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > -#define read_barrier_depends() __asm__ __volatile__("mb": : :"memory")
> > +#define __smp_load_acquire(p)						\
> > +({									\
> > +	__unqual_scalar_typeof(*p) ___p1 =				\
> > +		(*(volatile typeof(___p1) *)(p));			\
> > +	compiletime_assert_atomic_type(*p);				\
> > +	___p1;								\
> > +})
> 
> Sorry if I'm being thick, but doesn't this need a barrier after the
> volatile access to provide the acquire semantic?
> 
> IIUC prior to this commit alpha would have used the asm-generic
> __smp_load_acquire, i.e.
> 
> | #ifndef __smp_load_acquire
> | #define __smp_load_acquire(p)                                           \
> | ({                                                                      \
> |         __unqual_scalar_typeof(*p) ___p1 = READ_ONCE(*p);               \
> |         compiletime_assert_atomic_type(*p);                             \
> |         __smp_mb();                                                     \
> |         (typeof(*p))___p1;                                              \
> | })
> | #endif
> 
> ... where the __smp_mb() would be alpha's mb() from earlier in the patch
> context, i.e.
> 
> | #define mb() __asm__ __volatile__("mb": : :"memory")
> 
> ... so don't we need similar before returning ___p1 above in
> __smp_load_acquire() (and also matching the old read_barrier_depends())?
> 
> [...]
> 
> > +#include <asm/barrier.h>
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Alpha is apparently daft enough to reorder address-dependent loads
> > + * on some CPU implementations. Knock some common sense into it with
> > + * a memory barrier in READ_ONCE().
> > + */
> > +#define __READ_ONCE(x)	__smp_load_acquire(&(x))
> 
> As above, I don't see a memory barrier implied here, so this doesn't
> look quite right.

You're right, and Peter spotted the same thing off-list. I've reworked
locally so that the mb() ends up in __READ_ONCE() and __smp_load_acquire()
calles __READ_ONCE() instead of the other way round (which made more
sense before the rework in the merge window).

Will

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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30 17:37 [PATCH 00/18] Allow architectures to override __READ_ONCE() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 01/18] tools: bpf: Use local copy of headers including uapi/linux/filter.h Will Deacon
2020-07-01 16:38   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ, WRITE}_ONCE definitions out into rwonce.h Will Deacon
2020-06-30 19:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-01 10:16     ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ,WRITE}_ONCE " Will Deacon
2020-07-01 11:33       ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ, WRITE}_ONCE " Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 03/18] asm/rwonce: Allow __READ_ONCE to be overridden by the architecture Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 04/18] alpha: Override READ_ONCE() with barriered implementation Will Deacon
2020-07-02  9:32   ` Mark Rutland
2020-07-02  9:48     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-07-02 10:08       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-02 11:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-07-02 11:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-02 14:43   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-07-02 14:55     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-02 15:07       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 05/18] asm/rwonce: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() invocation Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 06/18] vhost: Remove redundant use of read_barrier_depends() barrier Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 07/18] alpha: Replace smp_read_barrier_depends() usage with smp_[r]mb() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 08/18] locking/barriers: Remove definitions for [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 09/18] Documentation/barriers: Remove references to [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 10/18] Documentation/barriers/kokr: " Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 11/18] tools/memory-model: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from informal doc Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 12/18] include/linux: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from comments Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 13/18] checkpatch: Remove checks relating to [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 14/18] arm64: Reduce the number of header files pulled into vmlinux.lds.S Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 15/18] arm64: alternatives: Split up alternative.h Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: cpufeatures: Add capability for LDAPR instruction Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64: alternatives: Remove READ_ONCE() usage during patch operation Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64: lto: Strengthen READ_ONCE() to acquire when CLANG_LTO=y Will Deacon
2020-06-30 19:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-01 10:19     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 10:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-30 19:47   ` Marco Elver
2020-06-30 20:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-30 22:57     ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-07-01 10:25       ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 10:24     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 17:07   ` Dave P Martin
2020-07-02  7:23     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-06 16:00       ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 16:34         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 17:05           ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 17:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-07 10:29               ` Dave Martin
2020-07-07 22:51                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-07 23:01                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-07-08  7:15                     ` Marco Elver
2020-07-08  9:16                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-08 18:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 18:35         ` Will Deacon
2020-07-06 19:23           ` Marco Elver
2020-07-06 19:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 16:08   ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 18:35     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-07 10:10       ` Dave Martin
2020-07-01  7:38 ` [PATCH 00/18] Allow architectures to override __READ_ONCE() Josh Triplett

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