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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: Enable PCI write-combine resources under sysfs
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:00:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200916170058.GD3122@gaia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200916141502.GB20770@e121166-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:15:02PM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 09:48:52AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 09:33:16AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 08:40:06PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 09:17:38AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > > > With the patch, those device will now use MT_DEVICE_NC.
> > > > 
> > > > Which doesn't do WC at all on some ARM implementations.
> > > 
> > > Is that just TX2? I remember that thing being weird where GRE performed
> > > better than NC, but I thought that was a one off (and the thing is dead).
> > 
> > I recall something along these lines. Hopefully ARM updated the guidance
> > to licensees.
> > 
> > > NC is more permissive than GRE, so I think that's the right one to use; i.e.
> > > we go for the fewest number of restrictions on the hardware. If somebody
> > > screws up the uarch, that's up to them.
> > 
> > I agree, Normal NC is better as long as the BAR can tolerate read
> > side-effects.
> 
> That we don't know but if a prefetchable BAR can't tolerate read
> side effects this would be already a problem on eg x86 - that's
> the best we can hope for given the current PCI specs.
> 
> +1 on normal NC. The only open point is whether we should make
> arch_can_pci_mmap_wc() return false on platforms like TX2.

I lost track in this thread whether it matters. TX2 would need Device
GRE for optimal performance but the kernel doesn't currently provide it
anyway. We could expose a new memory type, aligned_wc ;).

-- 
Catalin

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2020-09-02 16:47     ` [PATCH] arm64: Enable PCI write-combine resources under sysfs Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 17:21       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-02 17:54         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 23:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:07       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-03 11:08         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-03 14:36           ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-03 22:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-07 23:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-10  9:46             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10 10:54               ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-10 12:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 15:17                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10 17:10                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 21:46                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-10 23:29                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-11  0:39                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-11 14:21                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-11 21:42                           ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 14:17                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:24                               ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 14:38                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 21:42                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 22:00                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 22:32                                       ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 22:57                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 23:25                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 10:18                                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-15 11:05                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 23:17                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:40                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  7:59                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 12:12                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:09                                                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 14:14                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 23:59                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-17 10:28                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 11:32                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:01                                                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 16:08                                                               ` Will Deacon
2020-09-16 12:48                                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-16  8:33                                                   ` Will Deacon
2020-09-16  8:48                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-16 14:15                                                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 17:00                                                         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2020-09-16 21:29                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 12:08                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 23:00                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:12                                               ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 21:41                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-08-21 15:51 Clint Sbisa
2020-08-27 14:41 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-08-31 15:22 ` Clint Sbisa

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