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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:23:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200920082353.GG438822@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn6hc6g1.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 08:23:26AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19 2020 at 12:37, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 12:35 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >> I think it should be the case, but I want to double check: Will
> >> copy_*_user be allowed within a kmap_temporary section? This would
> >> allow us to ditch an absolute pile of slowpaths.
> >
> > (coffee just kicked in) copy_*_user is ofc allowed, but if you hit a
> > page fault you get a short read/write. This looks like it would remove
> > the need to handle these in a slowpath, since page faults can now be
> > served in this new kmap_temporary sections. But this sounds too good
> > to be true, so I'm wondering what I'm missing.
> 
> In principle we could allow pagefaults, but not with the currently
> proposed interface which can be called from any context. Obviously if
> called from atomic context it can't handle user page faults.
 
Yeah that's clear, but does the implemention need to disable pagefaults
unconditionally?

> In theory we could make a variant which does not disable pagefaults, but
> that's what kmap() already provides.

Currently we have a bunch of code which roughly does

	kmap_atomic();
	copy_*_user();
	kunmap_atomic();

	if (short_copy_user) {
		kmap();
		copy_*_user(remaining_stuff);
		kunmap();
	}

And the only reason is that kmap is a notch slower, hence the fastpath. If
we get a kmap which is fast and allows pagefaults (only in contexts that
allow pagefaults already ofc) then we can ditch a pile of kmap users.

Cheers, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-20  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19  9:17 [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 01/15] mm/highmem: Un-EXPORT __kmap_atomic_idx() Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 02/15] highmem: Provide generic variant of kmap_atomic* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 03/15] x86/mm/highmem: Use generic kmap atomic implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 04/15] arc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 05/15] ARM: highmem: Switch to generic kmap atomic Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 06/15] csky/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  0:05   ` Guo Ren
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 07/15] microblaze/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 08/15] mips/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 09/15] nds32/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 10/15] powerpc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 11/15] sparc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 12/15] xtensa/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 13/15] mm/highmem: Remove the old kmap_atomic cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 14/15] sched: highmem: Store temporary kmaps in task struct Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 15/15] mm/highmem: Provide kmap_temporary* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 10:35 ` [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Daniel Vetter
2020-09-19 10:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20  6:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:23       ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-09-20 17:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19 17:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19 19:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20  6:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21  7:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21 16:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  8:40                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 13:35                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 15:52                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-23 20:55                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 21:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  6:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 12:32                             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 12:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 13:51                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 13:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 17:55                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 18:58                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  8:27                       ` peterz
2020-09-24 19:36                         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-09-23 10:19                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 12:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 14:33                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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