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Tue, 18 May 2021 11:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:06:52 +0200 From: Maxime Ripard To: Vagrant Cascadian Cc: Salvatore Bonaccorso , Jernej =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0krabec?= , "B.R. Oake" , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com, Rob Herring , Chen-Yu Tsai , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: sun8i: h3: orangepi-plus: Fix Ethernet PHY mode Message-ID: <20210518150652.zxj56bljjeq3ogln@gilmour> References: <1243888060.510560.1612783497400@ichabod.co-bxl> <20210210150118.ly252i37eykayrcb@gilmour> <1719200956.433094.1613199092092@ichabod.co-bxl> <6612268.HtAl026vyE@jernej-laptop> <87o8dawhy3.fsf@yucca> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87o8dawhy3.fsf@yucca> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210518_080700_032738_79E475A1 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 39.66 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7181794850709913590==" Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============7181794850709913590== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qqqwqasxaqgopl6t" Content-Disposition: inline --qqqwqasxaqgopl6t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 01:18:44PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On 2021-05-16, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 09:51:17AM +0100, Jernej =C5=A0krabec wrote: > >> Let me first explain that it was oversight on my side not noticing ini= tials in=20 > >> your SoB tag. But since the issue was raised by Maxime, I didn't follo= w up. > >>=20 > >> Dne sobota, 13. februar 2021 ob 07:51:32 CET je B.R. Oake napisal(a): > >> > On Wed Feb 10 at 16:01:18 CET 2021, Maxime Ripard wrote: > >> > > Unfortunately we can't take this patch as is, this needs to be you= r real > >> > > name, see: > >> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.= html#de > >> > > veloper-s-certificate-of-origin-1-1 > >> > Dear Maxime, > >> >=20 > >> > Thank you very much for considering my contribution and for all your > >> > work on supporting sunxi-based hardware; I appreciate it. > >> >=20 > >> > Thank you for referring me to the Developer's Certificate of Origin,= but > >> > I had already read it before submitting (I had to do so in order to = know > >> > what I was saying by "Signed-off-by:") and I do certify what it says. > >> >=20 > >> > Looking through recent entries in the commit log of the mainline ker= nel, > >> > I see several patches from authors such as: > >> >=20 > >> > H.J. Lu > >> > B K Karthik > >> > JC Kuo > >> > EJ Hsu > >> > LH Lin > >> > KP Singh > >> > Karthik B S > >> > Shreyas NC > >> > Vandana BN > >> >=20 > >> > so I believe names of this form are in fact acceptable, even if the > >> > style might seem a little old-fashioned to some. > >>=20 > >> Speaking generally, not only for this case, prior art arguments rarely= hold,=20 > >> because: > >> - it might be oversight, > >> - it might be a bad practice, which should not be followed in new=20 > >> contributions, > >> - different maintainers have different point of view on same thing, > >> - maintainer wants to adapt new practice or steer subsystem in new dir= ection > >>=20 > >> >=20 > >> > I would like to add that I have met many people with names such as C= =2EJ., > >> > A A, TC, MG, etc. That is what everybody calls them and it would be > >> > natural for them to sign themselves that way. Some of them might wan= t to > >> > contribute to Linux some day, and I think it would be a great shame = and > >> > a loss to all of us if they were discouraged from doing so by reading > >> > our conversation in the archives and concluding that any contribution > >> > from them, however small, would be summarily refused simply because = of > >> > their name. Please could you ensure that does not happen? > >>=20 > >> The link you posted says following: > >> "using your real name (sorry, no pseudonyms or anonymous contributions= =2E)" > >>=20 > >> I believe that real name means no initials, no matter what people are= =20 > >> accustomed to. From my point of view, CJ is pseudonym derived from rea= l name. > >>=20 > >> This is not the first time that fix of SoB tag was requested, you can = find such=20 > >> requests in ML archives. >=20 > I'm sure this isn't the first time this sort of thing has been brought > up on this subject, but I feel obliged to mention: >=20 > https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-abo= ut-names/ >=20 > This seems to be blocked on culturally dependent perception of what > looks like a "real name" as opposed to any technical grounds. >=20 > What is the goal of the "real name" in Signed-off-by actually trying to > achieve? https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html#deve= loper-s-certificate-of-origin-1-1 I'm not the one making the rules, sorry Maxime --qqqwqasxaqgopl6t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYIAB0WIQRcEzekXsqa64kGDp7j7w1vZxhRxQUCYKPYDAAKCRDj7w1vZxhR xXECAPwPQPuDwA61Q2rSL92rcSESsZsduUWrz98QLINr377e+gD9HXsf9H7P36qZ DleU5wX9rkQ417ncngbQxsmmAH/6pwA= =ayow -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qqqwqasxaqgopl6t-- --===============7181794850709913590== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel --===============7181794850709913590==--