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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:23:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210616152326.GG22278@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210616150456.GC22433@arm.com>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 04:04:56PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:22:27PM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > If it's a problem, then it needs fixing. sys_cacheflush() is used to
> > implement GCC's __builtin___clear_cache(). I'm not sure who added this
> > to gcc.
> 
> I'm surprised that it works. I guess it's just luck that the thread
> doing the code writing doesn't migrate before the sys_cacheflush() call.

Maybe the platforms that use ARM MPCore avoid the issue somehow (maybe
by not using self-modifying code?)

> > Likely only in places where we care about I/D coherency - as the data
> > cache is required to be PIPT on these SMP platforms.
> 
> We had similar issue with the cache maintenance for DMA. The hack we
> employed (in cache.S) is relying on the MESI protocol internals and
> forcing a read/write for ownership before the D-cache maintenance.
> Luckily ARM11MPCore doesn't do speculative data loads to trigger some
> migration back.

That's very similar to the hack that was originally implemented for
MPCore DMA - see the DMA_CACHE_RWFO configuration option.

An interesting point here is that cache_ops_need_broadcast() reads
MMFR3 bits 12..15, which in the MPCore TRM has nothing to with cache
operation broadcasting - but luckily is documented as containing zero.
So, cache_ops_need_broadcast() returns correctly (true) here.

> The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read
> a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be
> evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines
> which are still dirty on the current CPU).

Is just reading sufficient? If so, why do we do a read-then-write in
the MPCore DMA cache ops? Don't we need the write to force exclusive
ownership? If we don't have exclusive ownership of the dirty line,
how can we be sure to write it out of the caches?

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1623813516.git.luto@kernel.org>
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  9:28   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:34       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 13:22           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:04             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:23               ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-06-16 15:45                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:00                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:27                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17  8:55                       ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-18 12:54                       ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 13:19                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-18 13:36                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-17 10:40   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 11:23     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17 11:33       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 13:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 13:51           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 14:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:20               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 15:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18  0:07   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:45   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 15:27       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-16 10:20   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 23:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:47   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 16:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 19:58         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 20:09           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-19  6:02             ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19 15:50               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-20  2:10                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 15:16   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:13     ` Andy Lutomirski

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