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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] kselftest/arm64: Add tests for SVE vector configuration
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 15:19:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210802141939.GF4668@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210802123749.GB25258@arm.com>


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On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 01:37:50PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 12:33:30PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:

> > That really doesn't seem like a good idea - it's just asking for
> > fragility if a signal gets delivered to the parent process or something.
> > Even if almost all the time there will only be one trip through the loop
> > we should still have the loop there for those few cases where it
> > triggers.

> This concern only applies when the program actually registers signal
> handlers.

> wait() can't return for any other reason, and it mustn't, precisely
> because historically software would have made this assumption.  This is
> one reason why wait3() etc. are separate functions.

That's great for the reader with a detailed knowledge of exactly what
error handling can be skipped and how standards conforming Linux is but
less good for the reader who is merely aware of best practices.  I am
not clear what the problem that is solved by removing the loop here is
TBH - to me it just makes it less obvious that we've handled everything.

> That aside though, can't we use popen(3)?

> I tend to forget about popen because it is "boring" to use it, but it
> looks like it fits this case quite well.  Then it would be libc's
> problem how to fork and wait safely.

popen() appears to be break the _SET_VL_ONEXEC test.  Between a lack of
strace in my test filesystem and not spotting anything obvious in the
glibc sources I can't tell exactly where it's doing something different,
though it does feel like it should be a separate testcase if it's
anything interesting.  I do think there is value in having exactly
what's done to start the child process be clear in the test program, and
that coverage of anything interesting from popen() could be done
incrementally.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-02 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-29 15:15 [PATCH v3 0/4] kselftest/arm64: Vector length configuration tests Mark Brown
2021-07-29 15:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] kselftest/arm64: Provide a helper binary and "library" for SVE RDVL Mark Brown
2021-07-29 15:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] kselftest/arm64: Validate vector lengths are set in sve-probe-vls Mark Brown
2021-07-29 15:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] kselftest/arm64: Add tests for SVE vector configuration Mark Brown
2021-07-29 16:06   ` Dave Martin
2021-07-29 17:34     ` Mark Brown
2021-08-02 10:25       ` Dave Martin
2021-08-02 11:33         ` Mark Brown
2021-08-02 12:37           ` Dave Martin
2021-08-02 14:19             ` Mark Brown [this message]
2021-08-02 15:36               ` Dave Martin
2021-08-02 16:23                 ` Mark Brown
2021-07-29 15:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] kselftest/arm64: Add a TODO list for floating point tests Mark Brown

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