Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dts: imx8mp-verdin: add dsi to hdmi functionality

From: Francesco Dolcini <francesco.dolcini@toradex.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Francesco Dolcini <francesco@dolcini.it>,
	Francesco Dolcini <francesco.dolcini@toradex.com>,
	Max Krummenacher <max.oss.09@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dts: imx8mp-verdin: add dsi to hdmi functionality
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 23:17:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220905211703.GA6180@francesco-nb.int.toradex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxZNVoMKly9eQ2xE@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

Hello Laurent,

On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 10:26:14PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 02:47:43PM +0200, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 03:24:51AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 05:57:20PM +0200, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 09:07:49PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > Someone can integrate a Verdin SoM with a carrier board that has no DSI
> > > to HDMI (or LVDS) bridge, there should thus be no such device in the
> > > device tree. The SoM has DSI signals present on its connector, that's
> > > what the SoM .dtsi should expose.
> > 
> > Just for the record Verdin i.MX8M Plus do have both HDMI and LVDS on the
> > connector (in addition to DSI) [1], of course we do have also the option to
> > have LVDS or HDMI using an external add-on DSI bridge as this patches are
> > about.
> > 
> > Said that it's true that sometime we describe peripherals that are part of the
> > SOM family into the SOM dtsi, this avoid quite a lot of duplications given the
> > amount of carrier board that are available on the market that use just the same
> > building blocks (and this was one of the 2 points I mentioned as a reasoning
> > for our current DTS files structure).
> 
> If those "SoM family" peripherals are on the carrier board, what's the
> issue with describing them in the carrier board .dtsi ? And if they're
> on an add-on board (such as, if I understand correctly, the DSI to HDMI
> encoder for the Dahlia carrier board), what's the issue with describing
> them in an overlay ?

These SOM family peripherals are in multiples(!) carrier boards AND on
accessories. The drawback of being strict as you are asking is that we
would end-up with a massive duplication of this small DTS building
blocks, therefore the decision in the past to put those in the base SOM
dtsi file.

Maybe adding something like imx8mp-verdin-dsi-hdmi.dtsi and
imx8mp-verdin-dsi-lvds.dtsi that can be included by both overlay and
carrier dts files as needed would solve both the need of being strict on
the board definition in the dts file and avoid duplications?
Not sure if that would work smoothly, it looks like adding some
complexity and maintenance overhead, but maybe is the correct solution.

Anyway, while I fully understand your reasoning, I'm still not happy to
change this for the current toradex products, since users of
our dts file currently rely on the expectations I tried to explain in
this email thread and Max patches are implementing (and this is
currently uniform over the whole toradex product range).

> Maybe I'm missing something ?
I tried to give more insights.

Francesco

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