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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:41:57 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 19/19] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
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On Tuesday 29 July 2014 15:31:16 Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On 29 July 2014 15:08, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 01:52:40PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 29 July 2014 14:37:38 Christoffer Dall wrote:
> >> >
> >> > For reference, Red Hat's current arguing point for ACPI in VMs is
> >> > hotplug of things like CPUs and memory for very large VMs, but I
> >> > haven't thought too carefully about this just yet, as I don't have a
> >> > 100+ core ARM 64-bit hardware lying around...
> >>
> >> I thought you could run guests with more virtual CPUs that you have
> >> physical CPUs on the host.
> >>
> >> Regarding CPU and memory hotplug, don't we already have PSCI and
> >> xen-balloon/virtio-balloon for that?
> >
> > PSCI (0.1) was there for guests from the start, and ACPI doesn't do
> > anything different w.r.t. PSCI other than requiring PSCI 0.2 (which can
> > be used by guests supporting only PSCI 0.1). So there's no magic for
> > CPU hotplug provided by ACPI.
> 
> With PSCI you can only provide your VM a bunch of CPUs and say that
> they're all turned off, and then turn some of them on later.  I
> honestly don't know if you can do proper CPU hotplug with ACPI, but
> the RH guys seem to argue that you can.  Again, I didn't think too
> carefully about this.

Xen does this in drivers/xen/cpu_hotplug.c, acpi does it in
drivers/acpi/acpi_processor.c.

> > Do either of the balloon drivers allow for memory to be hot-added to a
> > system initially provisioned with less?
> >
> No, it's just about reclaiming memory.  Same argument as above.

Again, Xen seems to be able to add more memory:

config XEN_BALLOON_MEMORY_HOTPLUG
        bool "Memory hotplug support for Xen balloon driver"
        default n
        depends on XEN_BALLOON && MEMORY_HOTPLUG
        help
          Memory hotplug support for Xen balloon driver allows expanding memory
          available for the system above limit declared at system startup.
          It is very useful on critical systems which require long
          run without rebooting.
	  ...

The same goes for hyperv, s390 and vmware. It should not be hard to add it
for KVM.

	Arnd