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[131.111.5.143]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v11-20020a5d678b000000b0029e1aa67fd2sm1998172wru.115.2023.01.13.13.04.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:04:45 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: Re: ia64 removal (was: Re: lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax) From: Jessica Clarke In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 21:04:44 +0000 Cc: Ard Biesheuvel , "Torvalds, Linus" , Mateusz Guzik , linux-arch , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Michael Ellerman , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" , "viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" , Jan Glauber , Linux ARM , linuxppc-dev Message-Id: <53F2E30D-FE1D-4710-B5FC-049905A7158E@jrtc27.com> References: To: "Luck, Tony" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20230113_130450_803161_73DE0A8E X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 13.97 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On 13 Jan 2023, at 21:03, Luck, Tony wrote: > >> For what it's worth, Debian and Gentoo both have ia64 ports with active >> users (6.1 looks like it currently fails to build in Debian due to a >> minor packaging issue, but various versions of 6.0 were built and >> published, and one of those is running on the one ia64 Debian builder I >> personally have access to). > > Jess, > > So dropping ia64 from the upstream kernel won't just save time of kernel > developers. It will also save time for the folks keeping Debian and Gentoo > ports up and running. > > Are there people actually running production systems on ia64 that also > update to v6.x kernels? > > If so, why? Just scrap the machine and replace with almost anything else. > You'll cover the cost of the new machine in short order with the savings on > your power bill. Hobbyists, same as alpha, hppa, m68k, sh and any other such architectures that have no real use in this day and age. Jess _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel