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From: james.morse@arm.com (James Morse)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:48:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58DA3F68.6090901@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170321193933.GB31111@cbox>

Hi Christoffer,

(CC: Leif and Achin who know more about how UEFI fits into this picture)

On 21/03/17 19:39, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 07:11:44PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
>> On 21/03/17 11:34, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:32:29PM +0800, gengdongjiu wrote:
>>>> On 2017/3/20 23:08, James Morse wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/03/17 07:55, Dongjiu Geng wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In the RAS implementation, hardware pass the virtual SEI
>>>>>>>>> syndrome information through the VSESR_EL2, so set the virtual
>>>>>>>>> SEI syndrome using physical SEI syndrome el2_elr to pass to
>>>>>>>>> the guest OS
>>>>>
>>>>> How does this work with firmware first?
>>>>
>>>> I explained it in previous mail about the work flow.
>>>
>>> When delivering and reporting SEIs to the VM, should this happen
>>> directly to the OS running in the VM, or to the guest firmware (e.g.
>>> UEFI) running in the VM as well?
>>
>> 'firmware first' is the ACPI specs name for x86's BIOS or management-mode
>> handling the error. On arm64 we have multiple things called firmware, so the
>> name might be more confusing than helpful.
>>
>> As far as I understand it, firmware here refers to the secure-world and EL3.
>> Something like ATF can use SCR_EL3.EA to claim SErrors and external aborts,
>> routing them to EL3 where secure platform specific firmware generates CPER records.
>> For a guest, Qemu takes the role of this EL3-firmware.
>>
> Thanks for the clarification.  So UEFI in the VM would not be involved
> in this at all?

On the host, part of UEFI is involved to generate the CPER records.
In a guest?, I don't know.
Qemu could generate the records, or drive some other component to do it.

Leif and Achin are the people with the UEFI/bigger picture.


> My confusion here comes from not thinking about QEMU or KVM as firmware,
> but as the machine, so it would be sort of like the functionality is
> baked into hardware rather than firmware.
> 
> Note that to the VM, the environment will look like hardware without EL3
> and without a secure world, so any software assuming there's something
> 'hidden' behind the available non-secure modes must not decide to
> disable features if discovering the lack of a secure world.


Thanks,

James

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-28 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-20  7:55 [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Dongjiu Geng
2017-03-20 11:24 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-20 12:28   ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-20 13:58     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-20 15:08       ` James Morse
2017-03-21  6:32         ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-21 11:34           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-21 19:11             ` James Morse
2017-03-21 19:39               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-21 22:10                 ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-22 11:15                   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-28 10:48                 ` James Morse [this message]
2017-03-28 11:23                   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-28 11:33                     ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-28 13:27                       ` James Morse
2017-03-28 11:54                     ` Achin Gupta
2017-03-28 12:16                       ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-28 13:40                         ` James Morse
2017-03-29  9:36                           ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-29 10:36                             ` Achin Gupta
2017-03-29 11:58                               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-29 12:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-29 13:36                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-29 13:54                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-29 13:56                                     ` Punit Agrawal
2017-04-06 12:35                                 ` gengdongjiu
2017-04-06 18:55                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-04-07  2:52                                     ` gengdongjiu
2017-04-07  9:21                                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-04-21 13:27                                     ` gengdongjiu
2017-04-24 11:27                                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-29 14:36                               ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-29 14:48                                 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-29 15:37                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-29 17:44                                     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-30  1:22                                       ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-28 12:22                       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-28 13:24                         ` Achin Gupta
2017-03-28 13:40                           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-21 13:10           ` James Morse
2017-03-22 13:37             ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-22 18:56               ` James Morse
2017-03-21  6:07       ` gengdongjiu
2017-03-21 13:51 ` kbuild test robot
2017-03-22  3:20   ` gengdongjiu

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