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On 9/10/20 3:11 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 02:22:37PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> 
>> Or am I way off here, and it really is possible (aside from the current
>> s390 situation) to observe something that "is no longer a page table"?
> 
> Yes, that is the issue. Remember there is no locking for GUP
> fast. While a page table cannot be freed there is nothing preventing
> the page table entry from being concurrently modified.
> 

OK, then we are saying the same thing after all, good.

> Without the stack variable it looks like this:
> 
>         pud_t pud = READ_ONCE(*pudp);
>         if (!pud_present(pud))
>              return
>         pmd_offset(pudp, address);
> 
> And pmd_offset() expands to
> 
>      return (pmd_t *)pud_page_vaddr(*pud) + pmd_index(address);
> 
> Between the READ_ONCE(*pudp) and (*pud) inside pmd_offset() the value
> of *pud can change, eg to !pud_present.
> 
> Then pud_page_vaddr(*pud) will crash. It is not use after free, it
> is using data that has not been validated.
> 

Right, that matches what I had in mind, too: you can still have a problem
even though you're in the same page table. I just wanted to confirm that
there's not some odd way to launch out into completely non-page-table
memory.


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA

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