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From: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
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	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Xie XiuQi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>, Guohanjun <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v5 7/8] arm64: add uaccess to machine check safe
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:04:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d50dcb8-8a7c-5735-cd49-ad814fecf641@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yq24TSpZK+3/86Pj@FVFF77S0Q05N>



在 2022/6/18 19:35, Mark Rutland 写道:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 05:27:45PM +0800, Tong Tiangen wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/6/17 17:06, Mark Rutland 写道:
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 06:50:55AM +0000, Tong Tiangen wrote:
>>>> If user access fail due to hardware memory error, only the relevant
>>>> processes are affected, so killing the user process and isolate the
>>>> error page with hardware memory errors is a more reasonable choice
>>>> than kernel panic.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>    arch/arm64/lib/copy_from_user.S | 8 ++++----
>>>>    arch/arm64/lib/copy_to_user.S   | 8 ++++----
>>>
>>> All of these changes are to the *kernel* accesses performed as part of copy
>>> to/from user, and have nothing to do with userspace, so it does not make sense
>>> to mark these as UACCESS.
>>
>> You have a point. so there is no need to modify copy_from/to_user.S in this
>> patch set.
> 
> Cool, thanks. If this patch just has the extable change, that's fine by me.
> 
>>> Do we *actually* need to recover from failues on these accesses? Looking at
>>> _copy_from_user(), the kernel will immediately follow this up with a memset()
>>> to the same address which will be fatal anyway, so this is only punting the
>>> failure for a few instructions.
>>
>> If recovery success, The task will be killed and there will be no subsequent
>> memset().
> 
> I don't think that's true.
> 
> IIUC per the last patch, in the exception handler we'll apply the fixup then
> force a signal. That doesn't kill the task immediately, and we'll return from
> the exception handler back into the original context (with the fixup applied).
> 

correct.

> The structure of copy_from_user() is
> 
> 	copy_from_user(to, from, n) {
> 		_copy_from_user(to, from, n) {
> 			res = n;
> 			res = raw_copy_from_user(to, from, n);
> 			if (res)
> 				memset(to + (n - res), 0, res);
> 		}
> 	}
> 
> So when the fixup is applied and res indicates that the copy terminated early,
> there is an unconditinal memset() before the fatal signal is handled in the
> return to userspace path.

correct in this scenario.

My idea is also valuable in many other scenarios.

> 
>>> If we really need to recover from certain accesses to kernel memory we should
>>> add a new EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO_MC or similar, but we need a strong
>>> rationale as to why that's useful. As things stand I do not beleive it makes
>>> sense for copy to/from user specifically.
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c b/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
>>>> index c301dcf6335f..8ca8d9639f9f 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
>>>> @@ -86,10 +86,10 @@ bool fixup_exception_mc(struct pt_regs *regs)
>>>>    	if (!ex)
>>>>    		return false;
>>>> -	/*
>>>> -	 * This is not complete, More Machine check safe extable type can
>>>> -	 * be processed here.
>>>> -	 */
>>>> +	switch (ex->type) {
>>>> +	case EX_TYPE_UACCESS_ERR_ZERO:
>>>> +		return ex_handler_uaccess_err_zero(ex, regs);
>>>> +	}
>>>
>>> This addition specifically makes sense to me, so can you split this into a separate patch?
>>
>> According to my understanding of the above, only the modification of
>> extable.c is retained.
>>
>> So what do you mean which part is made into a separate patch?
> 
> As above, if you just retain the extable.c changes, that's fine by me.

Thanks,
Tong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> .

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-20  2:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-28  6:50 [PATCH -next v5 0/8]arm64: add machine check safe support Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 1/8] arm64: extable: add new extable type EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO support Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:23   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  2:44     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 2/8] arm64: extable: make uaaccess helper use extable type EX_TYPE_UACCESS_ERR_ZERO Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:24   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  3:26     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18  8:42       ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 12:40         ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20  2:59           ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20  9:10             ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20 13:32               ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20 14:13               ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20 14:26                 ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 3/8] arm64: extable: move _cond_extable to _cond_uaccess_extable Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:31   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 4/8] arm64: extable: cleanup redundant extable type EX_TYPE_FIXUP Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:43   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 5/8] Add generic fallback version of copy_mc_to_user() Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 6/8] arm64: add support for machine check error safe Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:55   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  9:18     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 12:52       ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20  1:53         ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 7/8] arm64: add uaccess to machine check safe Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  9:06   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  9:27     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 11:35       ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20  2:04         ` Tong Tiangen [this message]
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 8/8] arm64: add cow " Tong Tiangen

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