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Subject: Re: [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 21:27:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sgbbaq0y.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjhxzx3KHHOMvdDj3Aw-_Mk5eRiNTUBB=tFf=vTkw1FeA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 21 2020 at 09:24, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:39 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>
>> If a task is migrated to a different CPU then the mapping address will
>> change which will explode in colourful ways.
>
> Right you are.
>
> Maybe we really *could* call this new kmap functionality something
> like "kmap_percpu()" (or maybe "local" is good enough), and make it
> act like your RT code does for spinlocks - not disable preemption, but
> only disabling CPU migration.

I"m all for it, but the scheduler people have opinions :)

> That would probably be good enough for a lot of users that don't want
> to expose excessive latencies, but where it's really not a huge deal
> to say "stick to this CPU for a short while".
>
> The crypto code certainly sounds like one such case.

I looked at a lot of the kmap_atomic() places and quite some of them
only require migration to be disabled to keep the temporary map
stable.

Quite some code could be simplified significantly especially those
places which need to do copy_from/to_user inside these
sections. Graphics is the main example here as Daniel pointed out.

Alternatively this could of course be solved with per CPU page tables
which will come around some day anyway I fear.

Thanks,

        tglx

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19  9:17 [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 01/15] mm/highmem: Un-EXPORT __kmap_atomic_idx() Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 02/15] highmem: Provide generic variant of kmap_atomic* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 03/15] x86/mm/highmem: Use generic kmap atomic implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 04/15] arc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 05/15] ARM: highmem: Switch to generic kmap atomic Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 06/15] csky/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  0:05   ` Guo Ren
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 07/15] microblaze/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 08/15] mips/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 09/15] nds32/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 10/15] powerpc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 11/15] sparc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 12/15] xtensa/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 13/15] mm/highmem: Remove the old kmap_atomic cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 14/15] sched: highmem: Store temporary kmaps in task struct Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 15/15] mm/highmem: Provide kmap_temporary* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 10:35 ` [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Daniel Vetter
2020-09-19 10:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20  6:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20 17:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19 17:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19 19:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20  6:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21  7:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21 16:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-09-23  8:40                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 13:35                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 15:52                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-23 20:55                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 21:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  6:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 12:32                             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 12:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 13:51                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 13:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 17:55                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 18:58                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  8:27                       ` peterz
2020-09-24 19:36                         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-09-23 10:19                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 12:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 14:33                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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