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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] arm64: enable HAVE_LD_DEAD_CODE_DATA_ELIMINATION
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:57:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+icZUW8SqpTuANz7brtR+QSxKn+UnYOVve-C+TOMh9RqdQh+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ros2o1p7-r65q-n4p-3o38-oo36rr58q041@syhkavp.arg>

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:47 PM Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
...
> > With CONFIG_TRIM_UNUSED_KSYMS=y I see a 3x-loops of building .version
> > and folowing steps - got no answer if this is intended.
>
> Yes it is intended. I explained it here:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/3/9/1099
>

Ah, cool.
Thanks for that link.

> With CONFIG_TRIM_UNUSED_KSYMS some EXPORT_SYMBOL() are removed, which
> allows for optimizing away the corresponding code, which in turn opens
> the possibility for more EXPORT_SYMBOL() to be removed, etc. The process
> eventually converge to a stable build. Normally only 2 passes are needed
> to converge, but LTO opens the possibilities for extra passes.
>
> > Means longer build-time.
>
> Oh, absolutely.  LTO (at least when I played with it) is slow. Add the
> multi-pass from CONFIG_TRIM_UNUSED_KSYMS on top of that and your kernel
> build becomes agonizingly slow. This is not something you want when
> doing kernel development.
>

Thanks for the feedback.

> > I did not follow this anymore as both Kconfigs with Clang-LTO consume
> > more build-time and the resulting vmlinux is some MiB bigger than with
> > Clang-CFI.
>
> That's rather strange. At least with gcc LTO I always obtained smaller
> kernels.
>

I cannot say much to GCC-LTO - I never used it.

If you are interested in Clang-CFI (see [1]) - which requires
Clang-LTO enabled and LLVM/Clang >= 12.
Some hours ago version 12.0.0-rc3 was released, see [2].

- Sedat -

[1] https://github.com/samitolvanen/linux/commits/clang-cfi
[2] https://github.com/ClangBuiltLinux/linux/issues/1259

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-25 11:20 [PATCH] [RFC] arm64: enable HAVE_LD_DEAD_CODE_DATA_ELIMINATION Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25 20:16 ` Kees Cook
2021-02-26  0:36 ` Sedat Dilek
2021-02-26  8:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-26  9:05     ` Sedat Dilek
2021-02-26  9:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-26 10:02         ` Sedat Dilek
2021-02-26 21:13 ` Fangrui Song
2021-02-27  9:49   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-01  1:11     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-10 20:49       ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-10 21:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-10 21:24           ` Sedat Dilek
2021-03-10 21:47             ` Nicolas Pitre
2021-03-10 21:57               ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2021-03-10 22:02           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-03-10 22:08             ` Nicolas Pitre
2021-03-10 22:29           ` Fangrui Song
2021-03-10 21:45         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-10 21:19       ` Nicolas Pitre
2021-03-10 22:42         ` Fangrui Song
2021-03-17 14:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-03-17 16:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-03-18  8:41     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-19 12:25       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-03-19 14:01         ` Arnd Bergmann

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