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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	 "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Glauber <jan.glauber@gmail.com>,
	 Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:45:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wg6opc5nb1qMuCO-R36Pfz_JJbx1DsU1P0cvLAeM2+eLQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083368BCA43E5B0D2822FD3FCC29@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 6:31 PM Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>
> There's not much "simultaneous" in the SMT on ia64.

Oh, I forgot about the whole SoEMT fiasco.

Yeah, that might make ia64 act a bit differently here.

But I don't think anybody cares any more, so I don't think that merits
making this a per-architecture choice.

The s390 people hated cpu_relax() here, but for them it was really
because it was bad *everywhere*, and they just made it a no-op (see
commit 22b6430d3665 "locking/core, s390: Make cpu_relax() a barrier
again"). There had been a (failed) attempt at "cpu_relax_lowlatency()"
for the s390 issues.

                  Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAGudoHHx0Nqg6DE70zAVA75eV-HXfWyhVMWZ-aSeOofkA_=WdA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-13  0:13 ` lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax Linus Torvalds
2023-01-13  0:30   ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-13  0:45     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2023-01-13  7:55     ` ia64 removal (was: Re: lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax) Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-13 16:17       ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-13 20:49       ` Jessica Clarke
2023-01-13 21:03         ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-13 21:04           ` Jessica Clarke
2023-01-13 21:05       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-13 23:25         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-14 11:24           ` Sedat Dilek
2023-01-14 11:28             ` Sedat Dilek
2023-01-15  0:27               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-15 12:04                 ` Sedat Dilek
2023-01-16  9:42                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-16  9:41                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-16 13:28                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16  9:40               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-16  9:37             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-16  9:32           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-16 10:09             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-13  1:12   ` lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax Mateusz Guzik
2023-01-13  4:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-13  9:46     ` Will Deacon
2023-01-13  3:20   ` Nicholas Piggin
2023-01-13  4:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-13  5:36       ` Nicholas Piggin
     [not found]     ` <1966767.1673878095@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
2023-01-16 15:09       ` Memory transaction instructions Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 16:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-18  9:05       ` David Howells
2023-01-19  1:41         ` Nicholas Piggin
2023-01-13 10:23   ` lockref scalability on x86-64 vs cpu_relax Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-13 18:44   ` [PATCH] lockref: stop doing cpu_relax in the cmpxchg loop Mateusz Guzik
2023-01-13 21:47     ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-13 23:31       ` Linus Torvalds

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