linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:25:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjwupOLq3xh8z02CpXe8-=Lb_z0kXXQJYQ5YaQPpi3MiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ylh61CCMkESmurIp@arm.com>

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:49 PM Catalin Marinas
<catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> It's a lot worse, ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN is currently 128 bytes on arm64.
> I want to at least get it down to 64 with this series while preserving
> the current kmalloc() semantics.

So here's a thought - maybe we could do the reverse of GFP_DMA, and
add a flag to the places that want small allocations and know they
don't need DMA?

Because even 64 bytes is _huge_ for those small allocations. And 128
bytes is just insane.

Maybe we don't have a ton of them, but I just checked my desktop, and
if my laptop had 17k 8-byte allocation, on my desktop it's currently
sitting at 43k of them. And I've got a lot of 16- and 32-byte ones
too:

  kmalloc-32         51529  51712     32  128    1 :
  kmalloc-16         45056  45056     16  256    1 :
  kmalloc-8          43008  43008      8  512    1 :

Don't ask me what they are. It's probably fairly easy to find out, and
it's probably something silly like sysfs private pointer data or
whatever.

If I did my math right, with a 128-byte minimum allocation, that is
16MB of wasted memory.

Yeah, yeah, I've got 64GB or RAM in this thing, and there are things
that take a lot more memory than the above (mem_map etc), and 64MB is
peanuts at just 0.1% of RAM.

Maybe nobody cares. But I really feel bad about that kind of egregious
waste. The mem_map[] array may be big, it may use 1.5% of the memory I
have, but at least it *does* something.

And it could be that if I have 150k of those smallish allocations, a
server with lots of active users might have millions. Not having
looked at where they come from, maybe that isn't the case, but it
*might* be.

Maybe adding something like a

        static int warn_every_1k = 0;
        WARN_ON(size < 32 && (1023 & ++warn_every_1k));

to kmalloc() would give us a statistical view of "lots of these small
allocations" thing, and we could add GFP_NODMA to them. There probably
aren't that many places that have those small allocations, and it's
certainly safer to annotate "this is not for DMA" than have the
requirement that all DMA allocations must be marked.

Then just teach kmalloc() something like

        align = (gfp_flags & __GFP_NODMA) ? 8 : 128;

on arm.

Hmm?

              Linus

_______________________________________________
linux-arm-kernel mailing list
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-14 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 13:57 [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/slab: Decouple ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN from ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 23:59   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-06  7:29     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-06 12:09       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-06  8:53     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08  6:42   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08  9:06     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08  9:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 10:37   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 14:02     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] drivers/base: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 14:57   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-04-11 17:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 03/10] drivers/gpu: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/10] drivers/md: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 05/10] drivers/spi: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 14:05   ` Mark Brown
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 06/10] drivers/usb: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 22:57   ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-06  6:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-06  8:49       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-06  9:41         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-07  4:30         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 11:01           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 11:40             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 16:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08  3:25                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-08  9:04                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08  9:11                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12  9:32                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12  9:40                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 10:02                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:18                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 12:31                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 22:01                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-13  8:47                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 19:53                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14  5:38                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 13:52                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:27                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 14:36                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:52                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 15:01                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 15:10                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 19:49                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-14 22:25                                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-04-15  6:03                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 11:09                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-16  9:42                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:07                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:33                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14 14:30                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  6:51                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  7:49                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  7:51                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  8:05                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  8:12                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  9:51                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:04                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:12                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 10:22                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:45                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 11:38                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-17  8:08                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:31                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:35                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:50                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:58                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:30                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18  8:37                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-18  9:19                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18 16:44                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-19 21:50                                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-20 10:36                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 11:29                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21  7:20                                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21  7:36                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21  7:44                                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21  8:05                                                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-21 11:06                                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 12:28                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 13:25                                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 13:47                                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 14:44                                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 14:47                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-10 11:03                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] crypto: Add helpers for allocating with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] crypto: Prepare to move crypto_tfm_ctx Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] crypto: api - Add crypto_tfm_ctx_dma Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 17:10                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-12  3:57                                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] crypto: aead - Add ctx helpers with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: hash " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: skcipher " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: api - Increase MAX_ALGAPI_ALIGNMASK to 127 Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] crypto: caam - Explicitly request DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 12:18                                             ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:25                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  9:51                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:31                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:11                                               ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:38                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:43                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:29                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-15 22:23                                                       ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-07-16  3:25                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-07-18 17:53                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-21  0:47                                                             ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-09-30 18:32                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-30 19:35                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-01 22:29                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-02 17:00                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-02 22:08                                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-10-02 22:24                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-03 17:39                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-12 17:45                                                                 ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-10-13 16:57                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-13 18:58                                                                     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-10-14 16:25                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-14 20:23                                                                         ` Saravana Kannan
2022-10-14 20:44                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-16 21:37                                                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:20                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  6:14   ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07  9:25     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 10:00       ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07 11:06         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/slab: Allow dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  3:46   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07  8:50     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  9:18       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07  9:35         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 12:26           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 11:55   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/slab: Simplify create_kmalloc_cache() args and make it static Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm64: Enable dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 14:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Vlastimil Babka
2022-04-07 17:48   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08 14:37     ` Vlastimil Babka

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAHk-=wjwupOLq3xh8z02CpXe8-=Lb_z0kXXQJYQ5YaQPpi3MiA@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=maz@kernel.org \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).