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From: ulf.hansson@linaro.org (Ulf Hansson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 2/2] mmc: meson-mx-sdio: Add a driver for the Amlogic Meson8 and Meson8b SoCs
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:50:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFrbxMpgDrZXKmrN4fyJWJ_ZML3jPxBs+YDEz=L1kA-BaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFBinCD=uH=oQmWAcsMpxtbJCnJZernZx3XoNaPixUUQ7pk76w@mail.gmail.com>

>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> +       if (!(cmd->flags & MMC_RSP_CRC))
>>>>> +               send |= MESON_MX_SDIO_SEND_RESP_WITHOUT_CRC7;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       if (cmd->flags & MMC_RSP_BUSY)
>>>>> +               send |= MESON_MX_SDIO_SEND_CHECK_DAT0_BUSY;
>>>>
>>>> In case the controller has HW support of busy detection, please
>>>> consider to enable MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY for this driver. Then also
>>>> assign host->max_busy_timeout a good value.
>>> the IRQS register has bit 4 (CMD_BUSY) - but apart from that there is
>>> no other documentation (about timeout values, etc.). the vendor driver
>>> also neither uses MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY nor host->max_busy_timeout
>>> should I leave this as it is?
>>
>> Please don't just leave it as is. This is an important thing to get right.
>>
>> You should be able to explore this area and see how the controller
>> behaves without too much of documentation. Regarding timeouts, it may
>> very well be that the controller don't have a timeout, which is why
>> you need a software timeout. That's not so uncommon actually.
> during my experiments I've never seen an interrupt when a command
> timed out (nor could I find information about a timeout register in
> the documentation). do you have any pointers (like a previous mail
> where you've explained) how I can "explore the controller's timeout
> behavior"?

Sorry, I don't have an pointers.

Anyway. If you do a big erase operation on an SD card, the card should
signal busy on DAT0 for a rather long time.

You could probably explore how long it takes for the card to respond
under those circumstances, and try both with and without
MESON_MX_SDIO_SEND_CHECK_DAT0_BUSY.

Of course you also need to try with and without
MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY, as the core may sometimes convert R1B to R1
responses depending on that cap.

[...]

>>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to implement, although I strongly recommend
>> you to address this in a second step. In other words, I suggest you to
>> drop the entire multiple slot support in the first step, then we can
>> deal with that on top instead.
> many thanks for the detailed explanation again!
> I would be fine with dropping multiple slot support for the moment
> *if* we can agree on the fact that the devicetree binding can support
> multiple slots in theory (my idea here is: keep the child-nodes with
> compatible = "mmc-slot" mandatory - but only allow one such child node
> for now). I don't want to break DT compatibility after a few
> weeks/months for a new driver. is that OK for you as well?

That's fine! We already have such a binding available for some other
mmc controllers. We could even consider to make that binding a generic
mmc binding.

[...]

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-06 17:18 [RFC 0/2] Add support for Meson MX "SDIO" MMC driver Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-06 17:18 ` [RFC 1/2] dt-bindings: mmc: Document the Amlogic Meson8 and Meson8b SDIO bindings Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-12 19:05   ` Rob Herring
2017-05-29 10:04   ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-06 17:18 ` [RFC 2/2] mmc: meson-mx-sdio: Add a driver for the Amlogic Meson8 and Meson8b SoCs Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-07 20:25   ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-29 14:38   ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-03 16:37     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-06-07 16:15       ` Ulf Hansson
2017-06-09 21:51         ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-06-19 11:50           ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2017-07-11 21:23             ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-07-12 13:42               ` Ulf Hansson
2017-07-18 11:17                 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-10  8:44 ` [RFC 0/2] Add support for Meson MX "SDIO" MMC driver Ulf Hansson
2017-05-10 19:22   ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-11  9:39     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-11 20:44       ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-24 20:37         ` Martin Blumenstingl
2017-05-27  2:48         ` Daniel Drake
2017-05-27 14:25           ` Martin Blumenstingl

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