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From: Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>
To: Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
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	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v10 3/7] arm64: hyperv: Add Hyper-V clocksource/clockevent support
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:17:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR21MB1593AD0CB11802FD65108AC7D70F9@MWHPR21MB1593.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
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From: Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:42 PM
> 
> From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:45 AM
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > [trimming the bulk of the thrread]
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 03:36:06PM +0000, Michael Kelley wrote:
> > > I've had a couple rounds of discussions with the Hyper-V team.   For
> > > the clocksource we've agreed to table the live migration discussion, and
> > > I'll resubmit the code so that arm_arch_timer.c provides the
> > > standard arch_sys_counter clocksource.  As noted previously, this just
> > > works for a Hyper-V guest.  The live migration discussion may come
> > > back later after a deeper investigation by Hyper-V.
> >
> > Great; thanks for this!
> >
> > > For clockevents, there's not a near term fix.  It's more than just plumbing
> > > an interrupt for Hyper-V to virtualize the ARM64 arch timer in a guest VM.
> > > From their perspective there's also benefit in having a timer abstraction
> > > that's independent of the architecture, and in the Linux guest, the STIMER
> > > code is common across x86/x64 and ARM64.  It follows the standard Linux
> > > clockevents model, as it should. The code is already in use in out-of-tree
> > > builds in the Linux VMs included in Windows 10 on ARM64 as part of the
> > > so-called "Windows Subsystem for Linux".
> > >
> > > So I'm hoping we can get this core support for ARM64 guests on Hyper-V
> > > into upstream using the existing STIMER support.  At some point, Hyper-V
> > > will do the virtualization of the ARM64 arch timer, but we don't want to
> > > have to stay out-of-tree until after that happens.
> >
> > My main concern here is making sure that we can rely on architected
> > properties, and don't have to special-case architected bits for hyperv
> > (or any other hypervisor), since that inevitably causes longer-term
> > pain.
> >
> > While in abstract I'm not as worried about using the timer
> > clock_event_device specifically, that same driver provides the
> > clocksource and the event stream, and I want those to work as usual,
> > without being tied into the hyperv code. IIUC that will require some
> > work, since the driver won't register if the GTDT is missing timer
> > interrupts (or if there is no GTDT).
> >
> > I think it really depends on what that looks like.
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Here are the details:
> 
> The existing initialization and registration code in arm_arch_timer.c
> works in a Hyper-V guest with no changes.  As previously mentioned,
> the GTDT exists and is correctly populated.  Even though it isn't used,
> there's a PPI INTID specified for the virtual timer, just so
> the "arm_sys_timer" clockevent can be initialized and registered.
> The IRQ shows up in the output of "cat /proc/interrupts" with zero counts
> for all CPUs since no interrupts are ever generated.  The EL1 virtual
> timer registers (CNTV_CVAL_EL0, CNTV_TVAL_EL0, and CNTV_CTL_EL0)
> are accessible in the VM.  The "arm_sys_timer" clockevent is left in
> a shutdown state with CNTV_CTL_EL0.ENABLE set to zero when the
> Hyper-V STIMER clockevent is registered with a higher rating.
> 
> Event streams are initialized and the __delay() implementation
> for ARM64 inside the kernel works.  However, on the Ampere
> eMAG hardware I'm using for testing, the WFE instruction returns
> more quickly than it should even though the event stream fields in
> CNTKCTL_EL1 are correct.  I have a query in to the Hyper-V team
> to see if they are trapping WFE and just returning, vs. perhaps the
> eMAG processor takes the easy way out and has WFE just return
> immediately.  I'm not knowledgeable about other uses of timer
> event streams, so let me know if there are other usage scenarios
> I should check.

I confirmed that Hyper-V is not trapping the WFE instruction.  And
on a Marvell TX2 and on an Ampere Altra, the counter event stream
and WFE provide the expected delay.  Evidently WFE on the eMAG
doesn't actually delay.  Bottom line:  event streams work as expected
in a Hyper-V VM.  No changes needed to arm_arch_timer.[ch].

Michael

> 
> Finally, the "arch_sys_counter" clocksource gets initialized and
> setup correctly.  If the Hyper-V clocksource is also initialized,
> you can flip between the two clocksources at runtime as expected.
> If the Hyper-V clocksource is not setup, then Linux in the VM runs
> fine with the "arch_sys_counter" clocksource.
> 
> Michael

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 17:37 [PATCH v10 0/7] Enable Linux guests on Hyper-V on ARM64 Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 1/7] asm-generic: hyperv: Fix incorrect architecture dependencies Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 2/7] arm64: hyperv: Add Hyper-V hypercall and register access utilities Michael Kelley
2021-05-14 12:52   ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-14 15:14     ` Michael Kelley
2021-05-17 11:44       ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-17 16:41         ` Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 3/7] arm64: hyperv: Add Hyper-V clocksource/clockevent support Michael Kelley
2021-05-14 12:37   ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-14 15:35     ` Michael Kelley
2021-05-17 13:08       ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-17 17:27         ` Michael Kelley
2021-05-18 17:00           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-08 15:36             ` Michael Kelley
2021-06-10 16:45               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-14  2:42                 ` Michael Kelley
2021-06-16 20:17                   ` Michael Kelley [this message]
2021-06-22  9:54                   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-23  8:56                     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-06-28  2:21                       ` Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 4/7] arm64: hyperv: Add kexec and panic handlers Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 5/7] arm64: hyperv: Initialize hypervisor on boot Michael Kelley
2021-05-13 15:16   ` Wei Liu
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 6/7] arm64: efi: Export screen_info Michael Kelley
2021-05-12 17:37 ` [PATCH v10 7/7] Drivers: hv: Enable Hyper-V code to be built on ARM64 Michael Kelley
2021-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v10 0/7] Enable Linux guests on Hyper-V " Sudeep Holla

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