From: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)" <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Chen Zhou <dingguo.cz@antgroup.com>,
John Donnelly <John.p.donnelly@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 02/13] x86/setup: Use parse_crashkernel_high_low() to simplify code
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:38:43 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ycw6s6DwZuHjckXL@dhcp-128-65.nay.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ycw0V1CmBPCPqexn@zn.tnic>
On 12/29/21 at 11:11am, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 03:45:12PM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> > BTW, I would suggest to wait for reviewers to response (eg. one week at
> > least, or more due to the holidays) before updating another version
> >
> > Do not worry to miss the 5.17. I would say take it easy if it will
> > miss then let's just leave with it and continue to work on the future
> > improvements. I think one reason this issue takes too long time is that it was
> > discussed some time but no followup and later people need to warm up
> > again. Just keep it warm and continue to engage in the improvements, do
> > not hurry for the specific mainline release.
>
> Can you tell this to *all* patch submitters please?
I appreciate you further explanation below to describe the situation. I do not
see how can I tell this to *all* submitters, but I am and I will try to do this
as far as I can. Maintainers and patch submitters, it would help for both
parties show sympathy with each other, some soft reminders will help
people to understand each other, especially for new comers.
>
> I can't count the times where people simply hurry to send the new
> revision just to get it in the next kernel, and make silly mistakes
> while doing so. Or not think things straight and misdesign it all.
>
> And what this causes is the opposite of what they wanna achieve - pissed
> maintainers and ignored threads.
>
> And they all *know* that the next kernel is around the corner. So why
> the hell does it even matter when?
>
> What most submitters fail to realize is, the moment your code hits
> upstream, it becomes the maintainers' problem and submitters can relax.
>
> But maintainers get to deal with this code forever. So after a while
> maintainers learn that they either accept ready code and it all just
> works or they make the mistake to take half-baked crap in and then they
> themselves get to clean it up and fix it.
>
> So maintainers learn quickly to push back.
>
> But it is annoying and it would help immensely if submitters would
> consider this and stop hurrying the code in but try to do a *good* job
> first, design-wise and code-wise by thinking hard about what they're
> trying to do.
>
> Yeah, things could be a lot simpler and easier - it only takes a little
> bit of effort...
>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
> Boris.
>
> https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
>
Thanks
Dave
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-28 13:25 [PATCH v19 00/13] support reserving crashkernel above 4G on arm64 kdump Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 01/13] kdump: add helper parse_crashkernel_high_low() Zhen Lei
2021-12-30 10:14 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-30 10:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-30 11:08 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-31 9:22 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-31 12:29 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2022-01-11 15:03 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 02/13] x86/setup: Use parse_crashkernel_high_low() to simplify code Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 16:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 2:27 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-29 7:27 ` Dave Young
2021-12-29 7:45 ` Dave Young
2021-12-29 10:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 10:38 ` Dave Young [this message]
2021-12-29 11:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 14:13 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-29 10:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 10:46 ` Dave Young
2021-12-29 15:04 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-29 16:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-30 2:39 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-30 8:56 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-29 12:19 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2022-01-11 15:04 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 03/13] kdump: make parse_crashkernel_{high|low}() static Zhen Lei
2022-01-11 15:04 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 04/13] kdump: reduce unnecessary parameters of parse_crashkernel_{high|low}() Zhen Lei
2022-01-11 15:05 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 05/13] x86/setup: Add and use CRASH_BASE_ALIGN Zhen Lei
2022-01-11 15:06 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 06/13] kexec: move crashk[_low]_res to crash_core module Zhen Lei
2022-01-11 15:06 ` john.p.donnelly
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 07/13] kdump: Add helper reserve_crashkernel_mem[_low]() Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 08/13] x86/setup: Move CRASH[_BASE]_ALIGN and CRASH_ADDR_{LOW|HIGH}_MAX to asm/kexec.h Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 09/13] x86/setup: Use generic reserve_crashkernel_mem[_low]() Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 10/13] arm64: kdump: introduce some macros for crash kernel reservation Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 11/13] arm64: kdump: reimplement crashkernel=X Zhen Lei
2022-01-12 14:45 ` Dave Kleikamp
2022-01-13 1:17 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 12/13] of: fdt: Add memory for devices by DT property "linux, usable-memory-range" Zhen Lei
2021-12-28 13:26 ` [PATCH v19 13/13] kdump: update Documentation about crashkernel Zhen Lei
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