From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@rosenzweig.io>,
asahi@lists.linux.dev, Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
Sven Peter <sven@svenpeter.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 11:03:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yx8D8mGCO+1sEaKG@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxrwLwVihe/s9wxN@google.com>
On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 08:50:07AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2022, Hector Martin wrote:
>
> > On 08/09/2022 22.36, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2022, Hector Martin wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 08/09/2022 21.31, Lee Jones wrote:
> > >>> The long and the short of it is; if you wish to treat this device, or
> > >>> at least a section of it, as a type of MFD, then please draft that
> > >>> part of it as an MFD driver, residing in drivers/mfd. If it's "not
> > >>> really an MFD", then find another way to represent the conglomeration
> > >>> please.
> > >>>
> > >>> If the MFD route is the best, then you can register each of the
> > >>> devices, including the *-core from drivers/mfd. Grep for "cross-ec"
> > >>> as a relatively recently good example.
> > >>
> > >> I think cros-ec is similar enough, yeah. As long as you don't mind
> > >> having the core codebase in mfd/ (4 files: core, rtkit backend, and
> > >> future T2 and legacy backends) we can do that.
> > >
> > > That's actually not what I'm suggesting.
> > >
> > > You *only* need to move the subsequent-device-registration handling
> > > into drivers/mfd. The remainder really should be treated as Platform
> > > (not to be confused with Arch Platform) code and should reside in
> > > drivers/platform. Just as we do with cros-ec.
> >
> > That's... an interesting approach.
>
> How you decide to initially architect it would be your choice.
>
> We can then discuss any potential improvements / suggestions.
>
> > Is the code in drivers/mfd supposed
> > to be a subdevice itself? That seems to be what's going on with
> > cros_ec_dev.c, but do we really need that layer of indirection?
>
> Ideally not. The evolution of cros-ec happened over many iterations
> and much time. Initially it was almost entirely implemented in
> drivers/mfd until I requested for a lot of the truly platform code to
> be moved out, as it grew beyond the bounds of, and was therefore no
> longer relevant to MFD.
>
> If we were to design and build it up again from scratch, I'd suggest
> that the MFD part would be the core-driver / entry-point. That driver
> should request and initialise shared resources and register the other
> devices, which is essentially the MFD's mantra.
>
> > What's the point of just having effectively an array of mfd_cell and
> > wrappers to call into the mfd core in the drivers/mfd/ tree and the
> > rest of the driver elsewhere?
>
> They should be separate drivers, with MFD registering the Platform.
I'm guessing this series is now dead, and Hector needs to re-spin the
patch set according to your views. I'm guessing this is going to take
a major re-work of the patch series.
I suspect my attempt and trying to get this upstream has made things
more complicated, because I doubt Hector has updated his patch set
with the review comments that have been made so far... so this is
now quite a mess. I think, once this is sorted, the entire series
will need to be re-reviewed entirely afresh.
I've also completely lost where I was in updating the patches with
all the discussion on this posting of the patch set (which is why I
posted v2, because I couldn't keep track of all the emails on this
version.) When I posted v2, I had already lost track, which is why
it got posted.
Sorry.
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2022-09-01 13:54 [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:15 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:56 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 16:25 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 16:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:33 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 15:06 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:28 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-05 10:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 9:04 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 9:31 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 11:22 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 11:36 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 11:57 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 13:28 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 13:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 13:53 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 14:25 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 14:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 15:38 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-06 15:55 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 13:46 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 15:34 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 16:10 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 17:35 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:40 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-06 18:38 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-07 9:39 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-01 22:26 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-02 14:49 ` Mark Kettenis
2022-09-02 17:04 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 19:14 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 15:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-01 15:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 3/6] soc: apple: rtkit: Add apple_rtkit_poll Russell King
2022-09-01 17:00 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-01 17:25 ` Eric Curtin
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 4/6] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-09-01 17:50 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 10:55 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 16:53 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 19:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 6:45 ` Sven Peter
2022-09-05 14:45 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:00 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-08 10:58 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 11:28 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 12:31 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 12:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-08 13:29 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-08 13:36 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-08 13:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-09 7:50 ` Lee Jones
2022-09-12 10:03 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-09-12 10:55 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-28 15:36 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31 8:46 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 9:03 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 9:44 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-31 17:24 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-01 9:59 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-29 6:40 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 8:48 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 8:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 9:29 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 9:44 ` Hector Martin
2022-10-31 17:23 ` Lee Jones
2022-10-31 19:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-02 13:12 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-02 15:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King
2022-09-01 18:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-01 21:51 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 6:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
[not found] ` <3B649A66-8116-432D-B88A-B5CE493EF930@cutebit.org>
[not found] ` <CAHp75VeB3_sZ2vsSxMSsLeJSkyemDh9iOPHXJCN1mhodA13LNQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-02 11:12 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 13:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:37 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-02 14:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:05 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 10:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 11:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 13:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 14:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 14:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 15:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-02 15:43 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 10:20 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 10:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 13:10 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:02 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:42 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 14:53 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 14:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 15:52 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:56 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 15:44 ` Martin Povišer
2022-09-05 15:58 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 16:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 19:10 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 6:51 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:47 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:39 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:16 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-05 15:04 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-02 9:42 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-01 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: macsmc: Add IRQ support Russell King
2022-09-01 18:03 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 11:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
[not found] ` <CAHp75VeDGCp8J6wnmCqGpV++vs2Zur9Mfp71Dk8dVXcuHFnCrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-05 13:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-02 13:21 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-05 12:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:19 ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-05 21:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-05 13:27 ` Linus Walleij
2022-09-06 7:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-06 7:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-09-06 8:00 ` Hector Martin
2022-09-01 15:12 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add Apple Mac System Management Controller GPIOs Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-27 15:35 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mfd: Add core Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-14 9:52 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-14 10:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] lib/vsprintf: Add support for generic FOURCCs by extending %p4cc Russell King
2022-11-14 15:34 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 15:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-14 16:18 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-14 16:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 16:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:43 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-22 14:49 ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dt-bindings: mfd: add binding for Apple Mac System Management Controller Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:42 ` Linus Walleij
2022-11-08 20:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 8:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09 22:17 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-10 11:35 ` Hector Martin
2022-11-10 11:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-10 14:36 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-10 14:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-14 10:05 ` Lee Jones
2022-11-08 22:30 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] platform/apple: Add new Apple Mac SMC driver Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] arm64: dts: apple: Add SMC node to t8103 devicetrees Russell King
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] dt-bindings: gpio: add binding for the GPIO block for Apple Mac SMC Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-08 20:56 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:09 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 7:31 ` Hector Martin
2022-11-09 8:36 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-09 9:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-09 9:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-11-08 22:30 ` Rob Herring
2022-11-08 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs Russell King
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