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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "elaine.zhang" <zhangqing@rock-chips.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
	Sandy Huang <hjc@rock-chips.com>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	Michael Riesch <michael.riesch@wolfvision.net>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Andy Yan <andy.yan@rock-chips.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 09/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: Add support for niu clk
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:55:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e65975a4-7d5f-1fb3-a031-2bb61de7f6a5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c04da9c-f9c9-7375-df1a-4661807549dd@collabora.com>

On 2022-03-16 13:01, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> On 3/16/22 12:12, Sascha Hauer wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 08:54:27PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>> On 3/14/22 11:18, Sascha Hauer wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 12:07:56AM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/22 11:33, Sascha Hauer wrote:
>>>>>> The rk3568 HDMI has an additional clock that needs to be enabled for the
>>>>>> HDMI controller to work. This clock is not needed for the HDMI
>>>>>> controller itself, but to make the SoC internal bus logic work. From the
>>>>>> reference manual:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.8.6 NIU Clock gating reliance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A part of niu clocks have a dependence on another niu clock in order to
>>>>>>> sharing the internal bus. When these clocks are in use, another niu
>>>>>>> clock must be opened, and cannot be gated.  These clocks and the special
>>>>>>> clock on which they are relied are as following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clocks which have dependency     The clock which can not be gated
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> pclk_vo_niu, hclk_vo_s_niu       hclk_vo_niu
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> The clock framework does not support turning on a clock whenever another
>>>>>> clock is turned on, so this patch adds support for the dependent clock
>>>>>> to the HDMI driver. We call it "NIU", which is for "Native Interface
>>>>>> Unit"
>>>>>
>>>>> This still doesn't make sense to me. You're saying that "pclk_vo_niu,
>>>>> hclk_vo_s_niu" depend on "hclk_vo_niu", but HDMI doesn't use pclk_vo, it
>>>>> uses pclk_hdmi.
>>>>
>>>> pclk_hdmi_host is a child clock of pclk_vo:
>>>>
>>>>       aclk_vo                  2        2        0   300000000          0     0  50000         Y
>>>>          aclk_hdcp             0        0        0   300000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>>          pclk_vo               2        3        0    75000000          0     0  50000         Y
>>>>             pclk_edp_ctrl      0        0        0    75000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>>             pclk_dsitx_1       0        0        0    75000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>>             pclk_dsitx_0       1        2        0    75000000          0     0  50000         Y
>>>>             pclk_hdmi_host     1        2        0    75000000          0     0  50000         Y
>>>>             pclk_hdcp          0        0        0    75000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>>          hclk_vo               2        5        0   150000000          0     0  50000         Y
>>>>             hclk_hdcp          0        0        0   150000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>>             hclk_vop           0        2        0   150000000          0     0  50000         N
>>>
>>> It was unclear that the pclk_hdmi is the child of pclk_vo by looking at
>>> the clk driver's code, thank you!
>>>
>>> Won't be better if the implicit clk dependency would be handled
>>> internally by the RK clk driver?
>>
>> I have considered handling something like coupled clocks in the clock
>> framework, but I have not yet considered handling this internally in the
>> Rockchip clock driver.
>>
>> I just had a quick look at the driver. While it sounds like an easy task
>> to enable gate A whenever gate B is enabled I haven't found a good way to
>> integrate that into the clk driver. It seems to me that it's not easier
>> to implement in the clk driver than it is to implement it in the clk
>> framework where it could be used by others as well.
>>
>>> For example, by making the common gate
>>> shared/refcounted. Have you considered this variant? Then we won't need
>>> to change the DT bindings.
>>
>> For the DT bindings it is just an additional clock. Should we have a
>> better way to handle that case in the future we could simply ignore the
>> additional clock. I wouldn't bother too much about this.
> 
> To me that NIU quirk should be internal to the clk h/w module, so it
> doesn't feel nice to mix the clk h/w description with the HDMI h/w
> description.
> 
> On the other hand, making clk driver to handle this case indeed will
> take some effort as I see now. For example, clk driver of NVIDIA Tegra
> has concept of shared gates, but bringing it to the RK clk driver will
> be quite messy.

 From a quick look, it seems like it could be straightforward 
conceptually at least. Presumably: subclass clk_gate_ops to 
enable/disable a required clock before enabling/disabling normally, have 
rockchip_clk_register_branch() resolve an optional required clock and 
pick gate_ops as appropriate, then the rest is basically just 
boilerplate for describing the dependencies in the first place. However 
I'd agree that in practical implementation terms it does look even 
simpler and cleaner for the clk_hw abstraction to provide the 
appropriate ops and resolution itself.

> Alright, let's work around the clk limitation like you're suggesting. I
> agree that it shouldn't really be a problem to deprecate the extra clock
> later on.

If there's a realistic chance that someone will actually work on a 
proper coupled/dependent/whatever clock abstraction before the rest of 
RK3588 is supported well enough for mainline users to start really 
caring about power efficiency, then arguably the simplest and cleanest 
workaround would be the other option that Elaine mentioned, of just 
marking hclk_vo as critical for now. If it's likely to turn into a 
"nothing's as permanent as a temporary fix" situation, though, then the 
DT binding has less functional impact, even if it does leave us 
developers with baggage down the line.

Robin.

> 
> I have last questions..
> 
> 1. Previously you said that the PD driver takes care of enabling all the
> clocks it can find in the device by itself on RPM-resume, then why HDMI
> driver needs to enable the clock explicitly?
> 
> 2. You added clk_prepare_enable(), but there is no corresponding
> clk_disable_unprepare(), AFAICS. Why?

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-16 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-11  8:32 [PATCH v8 00/24] drm/rockchip: RK356x VOP2 support Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 01/24] drm/rockchip: Embed drm_encoder into rockchip_decoder Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 02/24] drm/rockchip: Add crtc_endpoint_id to rockchip_encoder Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 03/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: rename vpll clock to reference clock Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 04/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: use "ref" as clock name Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 05/24] arm64: dts: rockchip: rk3399: rename HDMI ref clock to 'ref' Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 06/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: add rk3568 support Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 07/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: Add compatible for rk3568 HDMI Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 08/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: add regulator support Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 09/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: Add support for niu clk Sascha Hauer
2022-03-12 21:07   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-03-14  8:18     ` Sascha Hauer
2022-03-14 17:54       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-03-16  9:12         ` Sascha Hauer
2022-03-16 13:01           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-03-16 13:55             ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2022-03-16 14:01               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-03-16 14:31             ` Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 10/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: Add additional clock Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11 14:55   ` Rob Herring
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 11/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: Add regulator support Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 12/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: Use auto-generated tables Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 13/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: drop mode_valid hook Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 14/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: Set cur_ctr to 0 always Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 15/24] drm/rockchip: dw_hdmi: add default 594Mhz clk for 4K@60hz Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 16/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: Make unwedge pinctrl optional Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 17/24] arm64: dts: rockchip: rk356x: Add VOP2 nodes Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 18/24] arm64: dts: rockchip: rk356x: Add HDMI nodes Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 19/24] arm64: dts: rockchip: rk3568-evb: Enable VOP2 and hdmi Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 20/24] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable vop2 and hdmi tx on quartz64a Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 21/24] drm/rockchip: Make VOP driver optional Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 23/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: Add binding for VOP2 Sascha Hauer
2022-03-11  8:33 ` [PATCH v8 24/24] dt-bindings: display: rockchip: dw-hdmi: fix ports description Sascha Hauer
     [not found] ` <20220311083323.887372-23-s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
2022-03-15  6:46   ` [PATCH v8 22/24] drm: rockchip: Add VOP2 driver Andy Yan
2022-03-15 12:43     ` Daniel Stone
2022-03-16  1:14       ` Andy Yan
2022-03-16  7:40     ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]       ` <f9d57503-1ac6-61c6-5fda-1a78b6e7270a@rock-chips.com>
     [not found]         ` <e6ab5ce2-4177-9e45-a50f-9ea3abb08800@rock-chips.com>
2022-03-18  8:52           ` Sascha Hauer

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