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From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>
Cc: Loic PALLARDY <loic.pallardy@st.com>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-soc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] soc: qcom: Introduce APCS IPC driver
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 09:10:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170504161035.GC15143@minitux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABb+yY1YJ6cNG0UKahsnri3A4izdD3ZBpY6LLCHFkc=O3c0TcA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 04 May 00:54 PDT 2017, Jassi Brar wrote:

> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bjorn Andersson
> <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On Wed 03 May 02:55 PDT 2017, Jassi Brar wrote:
> >
> >> Loic, thanks for adding me.
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Loic PALLARDY <loic.pallardy@st.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: linux-remoteproc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-remoteproc-
> >> >> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Andersson
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:29 AM
> >> >> To: Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>; Rob Herring
> >> >> <robh+dt@kernel.org>; Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>; Ohad Ben-
> >> >> Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>
> >> >> Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org; linux-soc@vger.kernel.org;
> >> >> devicetree@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> >> >> remoteproc@vger.kernel.org
> >> >> Subject: [PATCH v3 2/4] soc: qcom: Introduce APCS IPC driver
> >> >>
> >> >> This implements a driver that exposes the IPC bits found in the APCS Global
> >> >> block in various Qualcomm platforms. The bits are used to signal inter-
> >> >> processor communication signals from the application CPU to other masters.
> >> >>
> >> >> The driver implements the "doorbell" binding and could be used as basis for a
> >> >> new Linux framework, if found useful outside Qualcomm.
> >> >>
> >> > Hi Bjorn,
> >> >
> >> > Even if Qualcom APCS IPC is limited, why don't you rely on existing mailbox framework.
> >> > It is there to gather all IPC management under the same interface.
> >> > No need to create a new one from my pov.
> >> > If you don't provide message data, mailbox framework behaves as doorbell.
> >> >
> >> QCOM RPM reinvented the wheel for what mailbox framework already did,
> >> despite my pointing it out =>
> >> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail//linux/kernel/1406.2/03918.html
> >>
> >
> > The RPM interface works by writing various information in shared DRAM
> > and then invoking an interrupt on the remote processor.
> >
> This is what _most_ platforms do, and they use mailbox framework. If
> mailbox framework doesn't suit RPM, then it doesn't suit most
> platforms that use it.
> 
> > My argumentation against using the mailbox framework for the RPM case
> > was that the message model is a software construct and doesn't fit the
> > mailbox framework.
> >
> Mailbox framework works beneath protocol layer (software construct).
> As I said years ago, the h/w bits of the controller should be under
> mailbox api, while the message structures and signals are protocol
> specific and be in QCOM specific location.
> 

Okay, now I finally get what you're saying. The RPM driver handles the
protocol but the actual triggering of the remote interrupt should be
done via the mailbox framework.

That makes sense, until now I haven't seen the need for having a driver
exposing the APCS IPC register (used by among others the RPM driver),
but I will rewrite this patch as a mailbox controller and turn the RPM
driver into a mailbox client.

> 
> > Before "inventing" the function for acquiring a handle to a doorbell I
> > did look at making this a mailbox controller, but as each mailbox
> > channel related to a single bit and 1 is the only value we'll ever write
> > it didn't feel like it matches the mailbox expectations. But as you seem
> > to object I'll attempt to rewrite it using the mailbox framework
> > instead.
> >
> Yes, please. 1-bit messages are just a special case of N-bits messages
> that mailbox framework supports.
> 

Yeah, but it's not even a 1-bit message, because writing 0 is a no-op.

> 
> > But which one of these would be appropriate for a "mailbox channel" that
> > doesn't have any actual messages?
> >
> >   mbox_send_message(chan, NULL)
> > or
> >   const int one = 1;
> >   mbox_send_message(chan, (void*)&one);
> >
> It depends upon your h/w.
> If each physical channel is hardwired to work on a predefined single
> bit, then the driver could do without that bit being explicitly
> passed.
> If a physical channel can be mapped onto any bit(s), then you do need
> to pass that info via mbox_send_message().
> 

It's a 32-bit register, writing a bit invokes the associated interrupt
on some remote processor. I.e. bits 0, 1 and 2 represents different
interrupts on the resource-power-management CPU while bit 12, 13, 14 and
15 will invoke interrupts on a modem CPU.

I'll rework the proposed driver and we can look at the actual
implementation instead.

> 
> >> The driver bypassed mailbox framework and was pushed via another tree.
> >> Same is being attempted now, only now it is more expensive to switch
> >> to generic mailbox framework having spent so much time on QCOM
> >> specific implementation of controller and protocol drivers inside
> >> drivers/soc/qcom/
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow this, there's no extensive rework going on here -
> > all I'm trying to do is abstract the "writel(BIT(x), ipc_reg)" line of
> > the RPM driver, because it's being used in other clients as well.
> >
> No, I meant ideally RPM should have used mailbox api for the
> controller programming, but moving to that now will be expensive
> because you already developed huge code base around QCOM specific
> mailbox implementation.
> 

The part discussed above was implemented using syscon, so it's a few
lines of code to grab hold of a handle and instead of
mbox_send_message() there is a single call to regmap_write(). All the
other parts of the implementation is protocol-specific, and as you say
the next layer up. So the transition is quite straight forward!

Regards,
Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-04 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-03  5:29 [PATCH v3 1/4] dt-bindings: Introduce doorbell binding Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-03  5:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] soc: qcom: Introduce APCS IPC driver Bjorn Andersson
     [not found]   ` <20170503052929.17422-2-bjorn.andersson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03  9:28     ` Loic PALLARDY
     [not found]       ` <c9b86ecfa6b84ae994da6c30d2840bbf-GGltqRL9kSEdIAuSVraBWEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03  9:55         ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-04  5:45           ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-04  7:54             ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-04 16:10               ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2017-05-04 17:00                 ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-03  5:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] soc: qcom: Add device tree binding for GLINK RPM Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-03  5:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rpmsg: Introduce Qualcomm RPM glink driver Bjorn Andersson

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