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From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
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	Abhinav Kumar <abhinavk@codeaurora.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Kuogee Hsieh <khsieh@codeaurora.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Vara Reddy <varar@codeaurora.org>,
	freedreno <freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>,
	Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
	Prashant Malani <pmalani@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] drm/msm/dp: Allow attaching a drm_panel
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 08:12:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=X5JFE3u9BtxxocaUrYNSpYXJN90UJ8HOvXZE6oYiVsDQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YV0KBWxVtKgOp2Cj@ripper>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:27 PM Bjorn Andersson
<bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > > For reference, this is how I thought one is supposed to tie the Type-C
> > > controller to the display driver:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211005022451.2037405-1-bjorn.andersson@linaro.org/
> >
> > OK, so I looked at that a bit. Fair warning that I've never looked at
> > the type C code before today so anything I say could be totally wrong!
> > :-)
> >
> > ...but I _think_ you're abusing the "mux" API for this. I think a type
> > C port can have exactly 1 mux, right? Right now you are claiming to be
> > _the_ mux in the DP driver, but what about for other alt modes? If
> > those wanted to be notified about similar things it would be
> > impossible because you're already _the_ mux, right?
> >
>
> I actually don't think so, because I acquire the typec_mux handle by the
> means of:
>
> mux_desc.svid = USB_TYPEC_DP_SID;
> mux_desc.mode = USB_TYPEC_DP_MODE;
> alt_port->mux = fwnode_typec_mux_get(fwnode, &mux_desc);

Hrm, I guess I need to go find that code. Ah, I see it in your WIP
tree, but not posted anywhere. :-P The only code I can see calling
fwnode_typec_mux_get() is `drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c`.
In that code it passes NULL for the mux_desc and I'm nearly certain
that it just handles one "mux" per connector despite the fact that it
handles lots of different types of alternate modes. That doesn't mean
that the cros_ec implementation is correct / finalized, but it's a
reference point.


> And in the DisplayPort node I provide svid = /bits/ 16 <0xff01>;
>
> So I will be able to reference multiple different altmode
> implementors using this scheme.

OK, so I'm trying to grok this more. Let's see.

I'm looking at ucsi_glink_probe() and looking at the matching dts in
your WIP tree [1] in "sc8180x-lenovo-flex-5g.dts" OK, so:

1. It's looping once per _connector_ by looping with
`device_for_each_child_node(dev, fwnode)`.

2. For each connector, it has exactly one `alt_port` structure.

3. For each `alt_port` structure it has exactly one `mux`.

...so currently with your WIP tree there is one "mux" per type C connector.


Perhaps what you're saying, though, is that the UCSI code in your WIP
tree can/should be changed to support more than one mux per port. Then
I guess it would have logic figuring out what muxes to notify about
which things? ...and I guess that would mean that it's currently a bug
that the ucsi_altmode_enable_usb() notifies "the DP type C mux" about
USB changes?


> > I _think_ a mux is supposed to be something more like
> > `drivers/phy/rockchip/phy-rockchip-typec.c` (though that code predates
> > the type C framework we're looking at here). There the phy can do all
> > the work of remuxing things / flipping orientation / etc. I don't
> > think it's a requirement that every SoC be able to do this remuxing
> > itself but (if memory serves) rk3399 implemented it so we didn't have
> > to do it on the TCPC and could use a cheaper solution there.
> >
>
> I'm afraid I don't see how this interacts with a display controller.

This was actually kinda my point. ;-) Specifically I think
`phy-rockchip-typec.c` is the thing that's supposed to be a "mux". I
think your display controller isn't a mux. Yeah, it's handy that muxes
get told about DP HPD status, but that doesn't mean it's the right
abstraction for you to implement. In my mental model, it's the same as
implementing your "i2c" controller with a "pinctrl" driver. :-P


> It
> seems more like it's the phy side of things, what we have split between
> the Type-C controller and the QMP phy to set the pins in the right
> state.
>
> > In any case, my point is that I think there is supposed to be a
> > _single_ mux per port that handles reassigning pins and that's what
> > this API is for.
> >
>
> If that's the case things such as typec_mux_match() is just completely
> backwards.

Yeah, I have no explanation for typec_mux_match(). Let me see if I can
lure some type C folks into this discussion.


> > ...so I will still assert that the right thing to do is to have a
> > drm_bridge for the type c connector and _that's_ what should be
> > sending HPD.
> >
>
> That still implies that all the current typec_mux code got it all wrong
> and should be thrown out. If you instead consider that you have a Type-C
> controller that upon switching DisplayPort on/off calls typec_mux_set()
> to inform the functions that things has changed then all the current
> code makes sense.
>
> It also maps nicely to how the TypeC controller would call
> typec_switch_set() to inform, in our case the QMP phy that the
> orientation has switched.
>
>
> It seems reasonable to have some common helper code that registers the
> typec_mux and turn its notifications into HPD notifications to the
> display code, but I still think that should live in the DRM framework,
> separate from the USB code.

I think I'm going to step back and hope that the experts can chime in.


[1] https://github.com/andersson/kernel/commits/wip/sc8180x-next-20210819

-Doug

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-26 23:13 Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-29  9:59 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-08-25 23:28   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-08-26  1:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2021-08-26 20:36   ` Doug Anderson
2021-08-26 20:29 ` Doug Anderson
2021-08-27 20:52 ` Doug Anderson
2021-08-28 14:40   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-08-30 16:01     ` Doug Anderson
2021-10-01 21:02   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-05  0:36     ` Doug Anderson
2021-10-05  1:11       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-05  1:50         ` Stephen Boyd
2021-10-05  2:11           ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-05 15:39         ` Doug Anderson
2021-10-05 17:34           ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-05 23:09             ` Doug Anderson
2021-10-06  2:29               ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-06 15:12                 ` Doug Anderson [this message]
2021-10-06 20:26                   ` Prashant Malani
2021-10-07 10:17                     ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-10-07 16:15                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-10-08 12:38                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-12-06 22:31                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-12-07 12:26                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-12-07 16:56                           ` Hans de Goede
2021-12-07 17:29                             ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-12-07 17:54                           ` Imre Deak

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