From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 14:56:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <edd1de35-5b9e-b679-9428-23c6d5005740@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YOaymBHc4g2cIfRn@8bytes.org>
On 2021-07-08 09:08, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:13PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> a) Nothing is inherently broken with my current approach.
>>
>> b) My current approach doesn't make anybody terribly upset even if
>> nobody is totally in love with it.
>
> Well, no, sorry :)
>
> I don't think it is a good idea to allow drivers to opt-out of the
> strict-setting. This is a platform or user decision, and the driver
> should accept whatever it gets.
>
> So the real question is still why strict is the default setting and how
> to change that. Or document for the users that want performance how to
> change the setting, so that they can decide.
As I mentioned before, conceptually I think this very much belongs in
sysfs as a user decision. We essentially have 4 levels of "strictness":
1: DMA domain with bounce pages
2: DMA domain
3: DMA domain with flush queue
4: Identity domain
The "make this device go faster because I trust it" use-case is why we
have the sysfs interface to switch between 2 and 4, so it's entirely
logical to have the intermediate option as well for when 3 is "faster"
enough while still giving a bit more peace of mind than full-on bypass.
Making it a platform-specific decision that's hidden in a driver -
arm-smmu-qcom can be considered a dumping ground of detailed platform
knowledge ;) - happens to work as a reasonable compromise for this
specific case, but I concur that it could be viewed as setting a
precedent for other cases which we definitely aren't as reasonable.
I've been thinking about the sysfs thing some more, and since it's
Friday afternoon and I can't concentrate on what I'm supposed to be
doing anyway, let's see how far I can get by Monday...
Robin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-09 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-24 17:17 [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] iommu: Add per-domain strictness and combine with the global default Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] iommu/arm-smmu: Check for strictness after calling impl->init_context() Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mmc: sdhci-msm: Request non-strict IOMMU mode Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 23:05 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-25 13:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC Joerg Roedel
2021-06-25 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-07 20:00 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-08 8:08 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-08 14:36 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-13 18:07 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 15:14 ` Doug Anderson
2021-08-03 0:09 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 0:34 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 8:19 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 13:56 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2021-07-14 10:15 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:29 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 10:48 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-09 19:21 ` Robin Murphy
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