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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: john.johansen@canonical.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com,
	casey.schaufler@intel.com, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v20 05/23] net: Prepare UDS for security module stacking
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 14:35:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1eeef766-405f-3800-c0cf-3eb008f9673e@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhSh=r4w_3mZOUwmKN0UxCMxPNGKd=_vr_iGV06rvCNbSA@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/4/2020 1:08 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:07 AM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>> Change the data used in UDS SO_PEERSEC processing from a
>> secid to a more general struct lsmblob. Update the
>> security_socket_getpeersec_dgram() interface to use the
>> lsmblob. There is a small amount of scaffolding code
>> that will come out when the security_secid_to_secctx()
>> code is brought in line with the lsmblob.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
>> ---
>>  include/linux/security.h |  7 +++++--
>>  include/net/af_unix.h    |  2 +-
>>  include/net/scm.h        |  8 +++++---
>>  net/ipv4/ip_sockglue.c   |  8 +++++---
>>  net/unix/af_unix.c       |  6 +++---
>>  security/security.c      | 18 +++++++++++++++---
>>  6 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> ...
>
>> diff --git a/include/net/af_unix.h b/include/net/af_unix.h
>> index f42fdddecd41..a86da0cb5ec1 100644
>> --- a/include/net/af_unix.h
>> +++ b/include/net/af_unix.h
>> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ struct unix_skb_parms {
>>         kgid_t                  gid;
>>         struct scm_fp_list      *fp;            /* Passed files         */
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK
>> -       u32                     secid;          /* Security ID          */
>> +       struct lsmblob          lsmblob;        /* Security LSM data    */
> As mentioned in a previous revision, I remain concerned that this is
> going to become a problem due to the size limit on unix_skb_parms.  I
> would need to redo the math to be certain, but if I recall correctly
> this would limit us to five LSMs assuming both that we don't need to
> grow the per-LSM size of lsmblob *and* the netdev folks don't decide
> to add more fields to the unix_skb_parms.
>
> I lost track of that earlier discussion so I'm not sure where it ended
> up, but if there is a viable alternative it might be a good idea to
> pursue it.

Stephen had concerns about the lifecycle management involved. He also
pointed out that I had taken a cowards way out when allocations failed.
That could result in unexpected behavior when an allocation failed.
Fixing that would have required a major re-write of the currently simple
UDS attribute code, which I suspect would be as hard a sell to netdev as
expanding the secid to a lsmblob. I also thought I'd gotten netdev on the
CC: for this patch, but it looks like I missed it.

I did start on the UDS attribute re-do, and discovered that I was going
to have to introduce new failure paths, and that it might not be possible
to maintain compatibility for all cases because of the new possibilities
of failure.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-04 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200826145247.10029-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2020-08-26 14:52 ` [PATCH v20 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 01/23] LSM: Infrastructure management of the sock security Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 02/23] LSM: Create and manage the lsmblob data structure Casey Schaufler
2020-09-04 21:50     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 03/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match Casey Schaufler
2020-09-04 18:53     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 04/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_kernel_act_as Casey Schaufler
2020-09-04 19:46     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 05/23] net: Prepare UDS for security module stacking Casey Schaufler
2020-09-03 16:28     ` James Morris
2020-09-04 20:08     ` Paul Moore
2020-09-04 21:35       ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2020-09-04 21:53         ` Paul Moore
2020-09-04 23:58           ` Casey Schaufler
2020-09-05 13:25             ` Paul Moore
2020-09-05 18:13               ` Casey Schaufler
2020-09-05 19:05                 ` John Johansen
2020-09-08  1:28                   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 13:35                     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 23:37                       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-09-09  0:21                         ` John Johansen
2020-09-09 13:19                           ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-09 18:19                             ` Casey Schaufler
2020-09-09 18:33                               ` John Johansen
2020-09-09 18:47                             ` John Johansen
2020-09-10 14:11                               ` Paul Moore
2020-09-09  0:17                       ` John Johansen
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 06/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secctx_to_secid Casey Schaufler
2020-09-04 21:29     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 07/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2020-09-04 21:59     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 08/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_ipc_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-09-05 13:12     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 09/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_task_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-09-05 13:18     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 10/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_inode_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-09-05 13:20     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 11/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_cred_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 12/23] IMA: Change internal interfaces to use lsmblobs Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  2:28     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 13/23] LSM: Specify which LSM to display Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 14/23] LSM: Ensure the correct LSM context releaser Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  2:45     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 15/23] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 16/23] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_inode_getsecctx Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  2:55     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 17/23] LSM: security_secid_to_secctx in netlink netfilter Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  3:11     ` Paul Moore
2020-09-08 10:46     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 18/23] NET: Store LSM netlabel data in a lsmblob Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  3:27     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 19/23] LSM: Verify LSM display sanity in binder Casey Schaufler
2020-09-06  3:30     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 20/23] Audit: Add new record for multiple process LSM attributes Casey Schaufler
2020-09-03 16:32     ` James Morris
2020-09-03 17:00       ` John Johansen
2020-09-03 21:49       ` Paul Moore
2020-09-06 16:32     ` Paul Moore
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 21/23] Audit: Add a new record for multiple object " Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 22/23] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 18:02     ` Randy Dunlap
2020-08-26 14:52   ` [PATCH v20 23/23] AppArmor: Remove the exclusive flag Casey Schaufler
2020-08-26 15:27   ` [PATCH v20 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler

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