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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday, March 13, 2020 12:42:15 PM EDT Paul Moore wrote: > > I think more and more, that more complete isolation is being done, > > taking advantage of each type of namespace as they become available, but > > I know a nuber of them didn't find it important yet to use IPC, PID or > > user namespaces which would be the only namespaces I can think of that > > would provide that isolation. > > > > It isn't entirely clear to me which side you fall on this issue, Paul. > > That's mostly because I was hoping for some clarification in the > discussion, especially the relevant certification requirements, but it > looks like there is still plenty of room for interpretation there (as > usual). I'd much rather us arrive at decisions based on requirements > and not gut feelings, which is where I think we are at right now. Certification rquirements are that we need the identity of anyone attempting to modify the audit configuration including shutting it down. -Steve -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit