Unhelpful events

Unhelpful events

[Steve Grubb]

Hello,

While patching up the event normalizer, I run across these events which 
really have no useful information:

type=BPF msg=audit(1622913714.840:15017): prog-id=137 op=UNLOAD

type=TIME_INJOFFSET msg=audit(1622547739.500:4): sec=0 nsec=486383948

type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter 
family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3

Either their syscall record is missing or they simply do not have all the 
necessary information. (Subject, action, object, results)

-Steve


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Re: Unhelpful events

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2021-06-07 11:32, Steve Grubb wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> While patching up the event normalizer, I run across these events which 
> really have no useful information:
> 
> type=BPF msg=audit(1622913714.840:15017): prog-id=137 op=UNLOAD
> 
> type=TIME_INJOFFSET msg=audit(1622547739.500:4): sec=0 nsec=486383948

Fedora?  "-a task,never"?

I assume ghak120 should be present in what you are using by now (v5.11)?
	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/120
	"BUG: accompanying records missing for requried records when no rules present"

> type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter 
> family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
> subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3

This is as complete as this event is going to get.  It is a kernel
event, reaping an unused table after a timeout.  See
	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25

> Either their syscall record is missing or they simply do not have all the 
> necessary information. (Subject, action, object, results)
> 
> -Steve

- RGB

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Re: Unhelpful events

[Steve Grubb]

On Monday, June 7, 2021 1:42:49 PM EDT Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 2021-06-07 11:32, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > While patching up the event normalizer, I run across these events which
> > really have no useful information:
> > 
> > type=BPF msg=audit(1622913714.840:15017): prog-id=137 op=UNLOAD
> > 
> > type=TIME_INJOFFSET msg=audit(1622547739.500:4): sec=0 nsec=486383948
> 
> Fedora?  "-a task,never"?

Nope. It is event #4. Does this even need to be sent? A TIME_INJOFFSET with 
no supporting info is not helpful.


> I assume ghak120 should be present in what you are using by now (v5.11)?

5.12.8

> 	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/120
> 	"BUG: accompanying records missing for requried records when no rules
> present"

There is no syscall anywhere near this:

type=SERVICE_STOP msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.922:973) : pid=1 uid=root 
auid=unset ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=systemd-
hostnamed comm=systemd exe=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success' 
----
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:974) : table=nat 
family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 
----
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:975) : table=broute 
family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 
----
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter 
family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 

> > type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter
> > family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833
> > subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3

> This is as complete as this event is going to get. It is a kernel
> event, reaping an unused table after a timeout.  See
> 	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25

 auid=-1 ses=-1  was it successful?

Was the BPF event succesful? Is there the equivalent of a task struct for BPF 
programs that tells anything about who it belonged to?

-Steve

> > Either their syscall record is missing or they simply do not have all the
> > necessary information. (Subject, action, object, results)
> > 
> > -Steve
> 
> - RGB
> 
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> Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems
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Re: Unhelpful events

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2021-06-07 14:38, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Monday, June 7, 2021 1:42:49 PM EDT Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > On 2021-06-07 11:32, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > While patching up the event normalizer, I run across these events which
> > > really have no useful information:
> > > 
> > > type=BPF msg=audit(1622913714.840:15017): prog-id=137 op=UNLOAD
> > > 
> > > type=TIME_INJOFFSET msg=audit(1622547739.500:4): sec=0 nsec=486383948
> > 
> > Fedora?  "-a task,never"?
> 
> Nope. It is event #4. Does this even need to be sent? A TIME_INJOFFSET with 
> no supporting info is not helpful.

I'm guessing that matching op=LOAD was done by systemd/init PID=1.

> > I assume ghak120 should be present in what you are using by now (v5.11)?
> 
> 5.12.8

Ok, that rules out that possibility.

> > 	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/120
> > 	"BUG: accompanying records missing for requried records when no rules
> > present"
> 
> There is no syscall anywhere near this:
> 
> type=SERVICE_STOP msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.922:973) : pid=1 uid=root 
> auid=unset ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=systemd-
> hostnamed comm=systemd exe=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd hostname=? addr=? 
> terminal=? res=success' 
> ----
> type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:974) : table=nat 
> family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
> subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 
> ----
> type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:975) : table=broute 
> family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
> subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 
> ----
> type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter 
> family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833 
> subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3 

These three would have been preceeded by an op=xt_register event that
may not have been logged up to 30 seconds earlier.

> > > type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(06/06/2021 08:44:53.947:976) : table=filter
> > > family=bridge entries=0 op=xt_unregister pid=5833
> > > subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u16:3
> 
> > This is as complete as this event is going to get. It is a kernel
> > event, reaping an unused table after a timeout.  See
> > 	https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25
> 
>  auid=-1 ses=-1  was it successful?

Sounds like it needs a "success" field that will be a duplicate of the
same field when a SYSCALL record is present.

I have also seen a NETFILTER_CFG op=xt_register (event#5) that was
systemd/init PID=1 or a hard-linked kernel module (rather than loadable
initiated by userspace) that was kernel-initiated.

> Was the BPF event succesful? Is there the equivalent of a task struct for BPF 
> programs that tells anything about who it belonged to?

The BPF unload events appear to be in the same situation as the
type=NETFILTER_CFG op=xt_unregister events, kernel-initiated, matched
with an op=LOAD event by prog-id= field with full details.  Perhaps it
also needs pid= subj= comm= and success= fields.

> -Steve
> 
> > > Either their syscall record is missing or they simply do not have all the
> > > necessary information. (Subject, action, object, results)
> > > 
> > > -Steve
> > 
> > - RGB

- RGB

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