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From: Rinat Gadelshin <rgadelsh@gmail.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: audit@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Can AUDIT_LIST_RULES causes kthreadd-spam?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 13:38:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8406cb9d-0654-b41c-64f9-01aba486b849@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2c12d41-95bb-6e56-4d68-8a4b50ca59fd@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

Hi Tetsuo.

Sorry for my log absence.
The kthread-spam problem has gone when I've switched to using 
unicast-netlink connection (like auditd does).

Do we need to make another test with the additional pr_info() ?

On 10.05.2023 16:30, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2023/05/10 21:12, Rinat Gadelshin wrote:
>>> Please try to find who is calling audit_send_reply_thread for many times.
>>>
>> I've rebuilt the kernel with 'dump stack()'.
> Oops, I thought dump_stack() shows pid and comm name, but
> it is dump_stack_print_info() that shows pid and comm name.
>
>> As far as I can see, it's the exit of `sendto` syscall.
>> It seems that the kernel just creates a new kthreadd for each sendto syscall.
>> But I think that I'm wrong and just missing something.
> Yes, sendto() on netlink socket calls netlink_sendmsg().
> For some reason, audit_send_reply() is called for many times.
> audit_send_reply() is called by audit_receive_msg() for the following types.
>
>    AUDIT_GET
>    AUDIT_SIGNAL_INFO
>    AUDIT_TTY_GET
>    AUDIT_GET_FEATURE
>
> Would you re-caputure with
>
> -	dump_stack();
> +	pr_info("%s %s:%d type=%d\n", __func__, current->comm, current->pid, type);
>
> ?
>
> Regardless of the result of re-caputure, it seems there is no switch that can
> prevent audit_send_reply() from calling kthread_run(audit_send_reply_thread).
>
> But since kthreadd runs with PID=2 and PPID=0, you might be able to use
> PID=2 and/or PPID=0 in your rules in order to let kernel audit subsystem
> ignore kthreadd. (I can't test because I haven't found how to reproduce
> audit_receive_msg() in my environment...)
>
> # cat /proc/2/status
> Name:   kthreadd
> Umask:  0000
> State:  S (sleeping)
> Tgid:   2
> Ngid:   0
> Pid:    2
> PPid:   0
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-24 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 21:14 Can AUDIT_LIST_RULES causes kthreadd-spam? Rinat Gadelshin
2023-05-03 21:27 ` Paul Moore
2023-05-03 22:12   ` Rinat Gadelshin
2023-05-04  2:50     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-04 18:40       ` Paul Moore
2023-05-04 22:53         ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-05 22:12           ` Rinat Gadelshin
2023-05-06  6:50             ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-10 12:12               ` Rinat Gadelshin
2023-05-10 13:30                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-10 13:48                   ` Steve Grubb
2023-05-24 10:38                   ` Rinat Gadelshin [this message]
2023-05-24 10:48                     ` Tetsuo Handa

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