Also, we would need to have a separate rule for open and openat family with something like -S open,openat -F dir=/etc -F perm=wa -k ETC_WATCH. So 2 syscall rules instead of 1 watch rule but we replace -S all with specific syscalls. Or we could combine all these open,openat,write family syscalls into a single syscall rule but with the permissions flag. On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:29 PM Amjad Gabbar wrote: > Yup....I was able to find the dummy check you are referring to and the > audit_reset_context() that is called next(which immediately exits in case > of dummy). > Thanks for the help folks....have a much better understanding of how the > audit context is allocated on enabling syscall auditing and the whole flow > post that. > > Had just 1 question wrt watches. IIUC, for watch rules we evaluate all > syscalls (Snippet from audit-userspace: > https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-userspace/blob/1482cec74f2d9472f81dd4f0533484bd0c26decd/lib/libaudit.c#L805 > ). > But based on the permissions in the rule, we evaluate if the syscall > belongs to a specific Audit Class using audit_match_class() and only log if > the syscalls match/ are part of the class. This also explains why I see > audit_filter_rules() called for watches even if the syscall being performed > is not at all related to file system auditing. > > > 1. I was wondering why do we not automatically identify if the syscall > is of interest or not in audit_in_mask() itself based on the rule > permissions of the watch? In this way we would avoid the additional > overhead of each syscall going into audit_filter_rules() and then > evaluating on the AUDIT_PERM case as well. > > > Currently a watch rule for "wa" permissions for /etc is similar to : > -a always,exit -F arch=b64 -S all -F dir=/etc -F perm=wa -k ETC_WATCH > > We only log if the syscall is part of the WRITE and ATTR permissions set. > Instead what I was suggesting was something like this: > > -a always,exit -F arch=b64 -S classes> -F dir=/etc -k ETC_WATCH > > Please correct me if my understanding in any of the above is incorrect. > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 3:54 PM Richard Guy Briggs wrote: > >> On 2023-02-17 16:50, Steve Grubb wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 3:55:58 PM EST Amjad Gabbar wrote: >> > > Thanks for the reply. >> > > I was trying to evaluate the same via Flamegraphs and what I noticed >> was >> > > that : >> > > >> > > 1. Despite deleting all rules (auditctl -D), there were still calls to >> > > audit_filter_syscall() on each syscall. I assume this is because >> syscall >> > > auditing is enabled and despite no rules, there still will be some >> > > performance impact and calls to syscall filtering functions on each >> > > syscall. >> > >> > Yes. >> > >> > > 2. For a single watch rule as well without any syscall rules, I could >> see >> > > calls to audit_filter_syscall() followed by audit_filter_rules() for >> > > unrelated syscalls such as futex() and recvmsg() - not present in >> > > include/asm-generic/audit_*.h >> > > Why would these functions be called for a single watch rule for >> syscalls >> > > unrelated to the permissions? >> > >> > If auditing is enabled, it will go into the syscall filter for *any* >> syscall. >> > It will go into __audit_syscall_exit for every syscall. If there is an >> audit >> > context, it will go into audit_filter_syscall. The documentation in the >> > comments above these functions is informative. >> > >> > My guess is that this code path might benefit from adding a list_empty >> check. >> > A long time ago, I think we kept a variable that denoted if there were >> any >> > rules and short-circuited if none. >> >> There is essentially an empty list check in __audit_syscall_exit() with >> the dummy check, based on the number of syscall (or io_uring) rules in >> place tracked in audit_n_rules. Unfortunately, we can't bail from >> __audit_syscall_entry() right after setting dummy because other >> hardwired records can cancel the dummy flag. >> >> > -Steve >> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 8:29 AM Steve Grubb >> wrote: >> > > > Hello, >> > > > >> > > > On Monday, February 13, 2023 4:24:02 PM EST Amjad Gabbar wrote: >> > > > > I wanted some help in better understanding the workflow of file >> system >> > > > > auditing(watch rules) vs Syscall Auditing(syscall rules). I know >> in >> > > > >> > > > general >> > > > >> > > > > file system auditing does not have the same performance impact as >> > > > > syscall >> > > > > auditing, even though both make use of syscall exits for their >> > > > >> > > > evaluation. >> > > > >> > > > > From the manpage - "Unlike most syscall auditing rules, watches >> do not >> > > > > impact performance based on the number of rules sent to the >> kernel." >> > > > > >> > > > > From a previous thread, I found this excerpt regarding file watch >> rules >> > > > >> > > > vs >> > > > >> > > > > sycall rules - >> > > > > >> > > > > "The reason it doesn't have performance impact like normal syscall >> > > > > rules >> > > > >> > > > is >> > > > >> > > > > because it gets moved to a list that is not evaluated every >> syscall. A >> > > > > normal syscall rule will get evaluated for every syscall because >> it has >> > > > >> > > > to >> > > > >> > > > > see if the syscall number is of interest and then it checks the >> next >> > > > > rule." >> > > > > >> > > > > Based on this I had a couple of questions: >> > > > > >> > > > > For normal syscall rules, the evaluation happens as >> > > > > __audit_syscall_exit >> > > > > < >> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1.10/C/ident/__audit_syscall_exit> >> > > > > calls audit_filter_syscall >> > > > > ( >> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1.10/source/kernel/auditsc.c#L841) >> > > > > >> > > > > Here, we check if the syscall is of interest or not in the >> > > > > audit_in_mask >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > function. >> > > > >> > > > > Only if the syscall is of interest do we proceed with examining >> the >> > > > > task >> > > > > and return on the first rule match. >> > > > > >> > > > > 1. What is the process or code path for watch rules? >> > > > > audit_filter_syscall >> > > > > < >> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1.10/C/ident/audit_filter_syscall> >> > > > >> > > > is >> > > > >> > > > > called for watch rules as well. Then how is it that these are not >> > > > > called >> > > > > for every syscall? Could you point me to the code where the >> evaluation >> > > > > happens only once? >> > > > >> > > > There is a file, kernel/audit_watch.c, that implements the interface >> > > > between >> > > > audit and fsnotify. You would want to learn how fsnotify works to >> > > > understand >> > > > how it avoids the syscall filter. >> > > > >> > > > > 2. Also, do file watches only involve the open system call family >> > > > > (open, >> > > > > openat etc). The man page implies the same, so just wanted to >> confirm. >> > > > > >> > > > > I assume -w /etc -p wa is the same as -a always,exit -S open -S >> openat >> > > > > -F >> > > > > dir=/etc? >> > > > >> > > > It depends on the flag passed for perm as to what syscall it wants. >> See: >> > > > >> > > > include/asm-generic/audit_*.h >> > > > >> > > > -Steve >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Linux-audit mailing list >> > Linux-audit@redhat.com >> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit >> > >> >> - RGB >> >> -- >> Richard Guy Briggs >> Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems >> Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada >> IRC: rgb, SunRaycer >> Voice: +1.647.777.2635, Internal: (81) 32635 >> >>