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From: Dan Merillat <dan.merillat@gmail.com>
To: Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bcache fails after reboot if discard is enabled
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:31:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPL5yKdfdtwPOQM-edwNJPkQDoBR2Oyagb6JWRP+-26xQvxyKQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3k5mvb-c14.ln1@hurikhan77.spdns.de>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There are reports about endurance tests that say you can write petabytes
>> of data to SSD before they die. Samsung's drives belong to the best
>> performers here with one downside: If they die, in those tests they took
>> all your data with them and without warning. Most other drives went into
>> read-only mode first so you could at least get your data off those drives,
>> but after a reboot those drives were dead, too.
>>
>> http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

This has what to do with bcache eating my data, again?

>> From those reports, I conclude: If your drive suddenly slows down, it's a
>> good idea to order a replacement and check the SMART stats (if you didn't
>> do that before).

This as well.  The drive didn't die, all sectors are still readable.
No errors at all on SMART.

>> I'm also not sure to instead call it a general bug or problem of bcache.
>> The TRIM implementation seems to be correct, at least it doesn't show
>> problems for me. I have TRIM enabled for btrfs, bcache, and the kernel
>> claims it to be supported. So I'd rather call it an incompatibility or
>> firmware flaw which needs to be worked around.

Please explain why no other filesystem, windows OR linux, has errors
with TRIM on this drive.

The other part I don't understand is that nothing should have been
discarded yet - I took the time
to flush the cache to disk (echo none > cache_mode), waited for
writeback to complete, detach the cdev,
waited for the detach to complete, recreate it with the correct
blocksize and discard enabled, then re-attach.  I ran for maybe 15
minutes like this before rebooting, for perhaps a dozen GB written out
of the 200gb cache partition.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-11  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-02  9:47 bcache fails after reboot if discard is enabled Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2015-01-02 10:00 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2015-01-03 16:32   ` Rolf Fokkens
2015-01-03 19:32     ` Stefan Priebe
2015-01-05  0:06       ` Michael Goertz
2015-02-09 19:46         ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-08  0:06           ` Dan Merillat
2015-04-08 18:17             ` Eric Wheeler
2015-04-08 18:27               ` Stefan Priebe
2015-04-08 19:31                 ` Eric Wheeler
2015-04-08 19:54                   ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-08 22:02                     ` Dan Merillat
2015-04-10 23:00                       ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-11  0:14                         ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-11  6:31                           ` Dan Merillat [this message]
2015-04-11  6:54                             ` Dan Merillat
2015-04-11  7:52                               ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-11 18:53                                 ` Dan Merillat
     [not found]                                 ` <CAPL5yKfpk8+6Vw cUVcwJ9QxAZJQmqaa98spCyT7+LekkRvkeAw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-04-11 20:09                                   ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-12  5:56                                     ` Dan Merillat
2015-04-29 17:48                                       ` Dan Merillat
2015-04-29 18:00                                         ` Ming Lin
2015-04-29 19:57                                         ` Kai Krakow
2015-04-08 18:46             ` Kai Krakow
2015-06-05  5:11             ` Kai Krakow

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