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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Roman Pen <roman.penyaev@profitbricks.com>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	swapnil.ingle@profitbricks.com, danil.kipnis@profitbricks.com,
	Jinpu Wang <jinpu.wang@profitbricks.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/26] rculist: introduce list_next_or_null_rr_rcu()
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 08:33:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180521153337.GF3803@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFymFCVqh4VxtqDPoFYh6zsGEDLSV79_AnsMp3M=t2mhqg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 08:16:59AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:51 AM Roman Penyaev <
> roman.penyaev@profitbricks.com> wrote:
> 
> > No, I continue from the pointer, which I assigned on the previous IO
> > in order to send IO fairly and keep load balanced.
> 
> Right. And that's exactly what has both me and Paul nervous. You're no
> longer in the RCU domain. You're using a pointer where the lifetime has
> nothing to do with RCU any more.
> 
> Can it be done? Sure. But you need *other* locking for it (that you haven't
> explained), and it's fragile as hell.

He looks to actually have it right, but I would want to see a big comment
on the read side noting the leak of the pointer and documenting why it
is OK.

							Thanx, Paul

> It's probably best to not use RCU for it at all, but depend on that "other
> locking" that you have to have anyway, to keep the pointer valid over the
> non-RCU region.
> 
>                 Linus
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-21 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-18 13:03 [PATCH v2 00/26] InfiniBand Transport (IBTRS) and Network Block Device (IBNBD) Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 01/26] rculist: introduce list_next_or_null_rr_rcu() Roman Pen
2018-05-18 16:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-19 20:25     ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-19 21:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-19 16:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-19 20:20     ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-19 20:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-20  0:43       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-21 13:50         ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-21 15:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-21 15:33             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-05-22  9:09               ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-22 16:36                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22 16:38                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-22 17:04                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-21 15:31           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22  9:09             ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-22 17:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 02/26] sysfs: export sysfs_remove_file_self() Roman Pen
2018-05-18 15:08   ` Tejun Heo
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 03/26] ibtrs: public interface header to establish RDMA connections Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 04/26] ibtrs: private headers with IBTRS protocol structs and helpers Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 05/26] ibtrs: core: lib functions shared between client and server modules Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 06/26] ibtrs: client: private header with client structs and functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 07/26] ibtrs: client: main functionality Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 08/26] ibtrs: client: statistics functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 09/26] ibtrs: client: sysfs interface functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 10/26] ibtrs: server: private header with server structs and functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 11/26] ibtrs: server: main functionality Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 12/26] ibtrs: server: statistics functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 13/26] ibtrs: server: sysfs interface functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 14/26] ibtrs: include client and server modules into kernel compilation Roman Pen
2018-05-20 22:14   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-21  6:36   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-22  5:05   ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-05-22  9:27     ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-22 13:18       ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-05-22 16:12         ` Roman Penyaev
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 15/26] ibtrs: a bit of documentation Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 16/26] ibnbd: private headers with IBNBD protocol structs and helpers Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 17/26] ibnbd: client: private header with client structs and functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 18/26] ibnbd: client: main functionality Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 19/26] ibnbd: client: sysfs interface functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 20/26] ibnbd: server: private header with server structs and functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 21/26] ibnbd: server: main functionality Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 22/26] ibnbd: server: functionality for IO submission to file or block dev Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 23/26] ibnbd: server: sysfs interface functions Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 24/26] ibnbd: include client and server modules into kernel compilation Roman Pen
2018-05-20 17:21   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-20 22:14   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-21  5:33   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 25/26] ibnbd: a bit of documentation Roman Pen
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [PATCH v2 26/26] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainer for IBNBD/IBTRS modules Roman Pen
2018-05-22 16:45 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] InfiniBand Transport (IBTRS) and Network Block Device (IBNBD) Jason Gunthorpe

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