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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 07/11] blk-mq: stop to handle IO and drain IO before hctx becomes inactive
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:46:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200429094616.GB700644@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200429080728.GB29143@willie-the-truck>

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 09:07:29AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:16:12AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 05:58:37PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 05:48:32PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > >  		atomic_inc(&data.hctx->nr_active);
> > > >  	}
> > > >  	data.hctx->tags->rqs[rq->tag] = rq;
> > > >  
> > > >  	/*
> > > > +	 * Ensure updates to rq->tag and tags->rqs[] are seen by
> > > > +	 * blk_mq_tags_inflight_rqs.  This pairs with the smp_mb__after_atomic
> > > > +	 * in blk_mq_hctx_notify_offline.  This only matters in case a process
> > > > +	 * gets migrated to another CPU that is not mapped to this hctx.
> > > >  	 */
> > > > +	if (rq->mq_ctx->cpu != get_cpu())
> > > >  		smp_mb();
> > > > +	put_cpu();
> > > 
> > > This looks exceedingly weird; how do you think you can get to another
> > > CPU and not have an smp_mb() implied in the migration itself? Also, what
> > 
> > What we need is one smp_mb() between the following two OPs:
> > 
> > 1) 
> >    rq->tag = rq->internal_tag;
> >    data.hctx->tags->rqs[rq->tag] = rq;
> > 
> > 2) 
> > 	if (unlikely(test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_INACTIVE, &rq->mq_hctx->state)))
> > 
> > And the pair of the above barrier is in blk_mq_hctx_notify_offline().
> 
> I'm struggling with this, so let me explain why. My understanding of the
> original patch [1] and your explanation above is that you want *either* of
> the following behaviours
> 
>   - __blk_mq_get_driver_tag() (i.e. (1) above) and test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_INACTIVE, ...)
>     run on the same CPU with barrier() between them, or
> 
>   - There is a migration and therefore an implied smp_mb() between them
> 
> However, given that most CPUs can speculate loads (and therefore the
> test_bit() operation), I don't understand how the "everything runs on the
> same CPU" is safe if a barrier() is required.  In other words, if the
> barrier() is needed to prevent the compiler hoisting the load, then the CPU
> can still cause problems.

Do you think the speculate loads may return wrong value of
BLK_MQ_S_INACTIVE bit in case of single CPU? BTW, writing the bit is
done on the same CPU. If yes, this machine may not obey cache consistency,
IMO.

Also smp_mb() is really barrier() in case of non-SMP, looks non-SMP code
still works well without other barrier required even though with
speculate loads.

Thanks,
Ming

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Will
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20200424102351.475641-8-ming.lei@redhat.com/
> 

-- 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24 10:23 [PATCH V8 00/11] blk-mq: improvement CPU hotplug Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 01/11] block: clone nr_integrity_segments and write_hint in blk_rq_prep_clone Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24 12:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 16:11   ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 02/11] block: add helper for copying request Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24 12:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 16:12   ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 03/11] blk-mq: mark blk_mq_get_driver_tag as static Ming Lei
2020-04-24 12:44   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 16:13   ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 04/11] blk-mq: assign rq->tag in blk_mq_get_driver_tag Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24 13:02   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  2:54     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-25 18:26       ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 05/11] blk-mq: support rq filter callback when iterating rqs Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:17   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  3:04     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 06/11] blk-mq: prepare for draining IO when hctx's all CPUs are offline Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:23   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  3:24     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 07/11] blk-mq: stop to handle IO and drain IO before hctx becomes inactive Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  3:17     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-25  8:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  9:34         ` Ming Lei
2020-04-25  9:53           ` Ming Lei
2020-04-25 15:48             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-26  2:06               ` Ming Lei
2020-04-26  8:19                 ` John Garry
2020-04-27 15:36                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-28  1:10                   ` Ming Lei
2020-04-27 19:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-28  6:54                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-28 15:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-29  2:16                 ` Ming Lei
2020-04-29  8:07                   ` Will Deacon
2020-04-29  9:46                     ` Ming Lei [this message]
2020-04-29 12:27                       ` Will Deacon
2020-04-29 13:43                         ` Ming Lei
2020-04-29 17:34                           ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30  0:39                             ` Ming Lei
2020-04-30 11:04                               ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 14:02                                 ` Ming Lei
2020-05-05 15:46                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  1:24                                     ` Ming Lei
2020-05-06  7:28                                       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06  8:07                                         ` Ming Lei
2020-05-06  9:56                                           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 10:22                                             ` Ming Lei
2020-04-29 17:46                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-30  0:43                             ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  3:30     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:42   ` John Garry
2020-04-25  3:41     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 08/11] block: add blk_end_flush_machinery Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  3:44     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-25  8:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  9:51         ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:47   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  3:47     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 09/11] blk-mq: add blk_mq_hctx_handle_dead_cpu for handling cpu dead Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  3:48     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:48   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 10/11] blk-mq: re-submit IO in case that hctx is inactive Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-25  3:52     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 13:55   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-25  3:59     ` Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:23 ` [PATCH V8 11/11] block: deactivate hctx when the hctx is actually inactive Ming Lei
2020-04-24 10:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24 13:56   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-24 15:23 ` [PATCH V8 00/11] blk-mq: improvement CPU hotplug Jens Axboe
2020-04-24 15:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24 15:41     ` Jens Axboe

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