From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A88C433F5 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F59F61251 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230194AbhISKdI (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Sep 2021 06:33:08 -0400 Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com ([45.249.212.188]:9895 "EHLO szxga02-in.huawei.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229570AbhISKdI (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Sep 2021 06:33:08 -0400 Received: from dggemv711-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.30.72.56]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (SkyGuard) with ESMTP id 4HC3ld73fSz8yRT; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:27:09 +0800 (CST) Received: from dggema762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.204) by dggemv711-chm.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.66) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256) id 15.1.2308.8; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:31:39 +0800 Received: from [10.174.176.73] (10.174.176.73) by dggema762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.204) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2308.8; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:31:39 +0800 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-throttle: enable io throttle for root in cgroup v2 To: Khazhy Kumykov , =?UTF-8?Q?Michal_Koutn=c3=bd?= CC: , , , , , References: <20210909140815.2600858-1-yukuai3@huawei.com> <20210917174103.GC13346@blackbody.suse.cz> From: "yukuai (C)" Message-ID: <37f8c687-8549-104a-2501-532a0cfc9a48@huawei.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:31:38 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.174.176.73] X-ClientProxiedBy: dggems702-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.179) To dggema762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.204) X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On 2021/09/18 3:58, Khazhy Kumykov wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 10:41 AM Michal Koutný wrote: >> >> Hello Yu. >> >> On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 10:08:15PM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote: >>> I'm not sure why this feature is disabled in the first place, is >>> there any problem or design constraint? >> >> The idea for v2 is that in the root cgroup remain only kernel threads that >> provide "global" services and any user workload that should be >> constrained is put into non-root cgroups. Additionally, if kernel >> threads carry out work associated with a cgroup they can charge it to >> the respective cgroup. >> >> [snip] >>> We want to limit the overall iops/bps of the device in cgroup v2, >> >> Cui bono? (I mean what is the reason for throttling on the global level >> when there's no other entity utiliting the residual? >> Your drives are too fast?) > > We'd be interested in something like this as well. (at least for > io.max). Our use case is providing remote devices which are a shared > resource. A "global" throttle like this (which is set by a local Our use case is similair to this, a host can provide several remote devices to difierent client. If one client is under high io pressure, other client might be affected. Thus we want to limit the overall iops/bps from the client. Thanks, Kuai > management daemon) allows for throttling before sending network > traffic. It's also useful since we can put this throttle on a dm, so > we can enforce an aggregate throttle without needing backchannels to > coordinate multiple targets. > (This does also bring up: if this is a useful thing, would it make > sense to tie to the device, vs. requiring cgroup. We happen to use > cgroups so that requirement doesn't affect us). > > Khazhy >> >> Michal