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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	Mikhail Malygin <m.malygin@yadro.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Alexander Buev <a.buev@yadro.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"linux@yadro.com" <linux@yadro.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] implement direct IO with integrity
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 11:45:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6afe0247-f6c4-8ab9-2b49-8c02e2704757@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e44e0928-bc01-06df-4bd7-cb120efeed50@gmail.com>

On 10/28/21 11:11 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 10/28/21 17:22, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 10/28/21 9:56 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> On 10/28/21 16:50, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 10/28/21 9:44 AM, Mikhail Malygin wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the feedback, we’ll submit and updated version of the series.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only question is regarding uapi: should we add a separate opcodes
>>>>> for read/write or use existing opcodes with the flag in the
>>>>> io_uring_sqe.rw_flags field?
>>>>>
>>>>> The flag was discussed in the another submission, where it was
>>>>> considered to be a better approach over opcodes:
>>>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-block/patch/20200226083719.4389-2-bob.liu@oracle.com/
>>>>
>>>> Separate opcodes is, at least to me, definitely the way to go. Just
>>>> looking at the code needing to tap into weird spots for PI is enough to
>>>> make that call. On top of that, it also allows you to cleanly define
>>>> this command and (hopefully?) avoid that weirdness with implied PI in
>>>> the last iovec.
>>>
>>> Reminds me struggles with writing encoded data to btrfs. I believe
>>> Omar did go for RWF_ENCODED flag, right?
>>
>> Exactly the same problem, yes. It ends up being pretty miserable, and
>> there's no reason to go through that misery when we're not bound by only
>> passing in an iovec.
> 
> I agree that a new opcode is better, at least we can keep the overhead
> out of the common path, but RWF_ENCODED was having similar problems
> (e.g. passing metadata in iov), so that's interesting why RWF was chosen
> in the end. Is it only to support readv/writev(2) or something else?

To shoe horn it in via an existing interface, I don't think anybody
wanted to add yet another read/write API just to cater to that.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-28 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-28 11:24 [PATCH 0/3] implement direct IO with integrity Alexander V. Buev
2021-10-28 11:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: bio-integrity: add PI iovec to bio Alexander V. Buev
2021-10-28 15:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-29  0:11   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-10-29  4:27   ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-29 10:59     ` Alexander V. Buev
2021-10-29  8:40   ` kernel test robot
2021-10-29  8:53   ` kernel test robot
2021-10-29  9:48   ` kernel test robot
2021-10-28 11:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] block: io_uring: add IO_WITH_PI flag to SQE Alexander V. Buev
2021-10-28 11:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] block: fops: handle IOCB_USE_PI in direct IO Alexander V. Buev
2021-10-28 15:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-29  9:04   ` kernel test robot
2021-10-28 15:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] implement direct IO with integrity Jens Axboe
2021-10-28 15:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-28 15:20     ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-28 15:44       ` Mikhail Malygin
2021-10-28 15:50         ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-28 15:56           ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-28 16:22             ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-28 17:11               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-28 17:45                 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-10-29  3:39       ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-28 15:25   ` Jens Axboe

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