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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
Cc: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	'Paolo Valente' via bfq-iosched  <bfq-iosched@googlegroups.com>,
	Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>,
	Angelo Ruocco <angeloruocco90@gmail.com>,
	lennart@poettering.net, mkoutny@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] block, bfq: delete "bfq" prefix from cgroup filenames
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 09:11:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85f1978b-bb31-c6bc-e824-c0682bbd2922@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <938957C8-3A0F-4664-8D1F-A822F6D6D4E7@linaro.org>

On 4/8/19 9:06 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
> 
> 
>> Il giorno 8 apr 2019, alle ore 17:05, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> ha scritto:
>>
>> On 4/8/19 9:04 AM, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
>>> [+Cc Michal ]
>>> On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 04:54:39PM +0200, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 8 apr 2019, alle ore 16:49, Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 04:39:35PM +0200, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>>>> From: Angelo Ruocco <angeloruocco90@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When bfq was merged into mainline, there were two I/O schedulers that
>>>>>> implemented the proportional-share policy: bfq for blk-mq and cfq for
>>>>>> legacy blk. bfq's interface files in the blkio/io controller have the
>>>>>> same names as cfq. But the cgroups interface doesn't allow two
>>>>>> entities to use the same name for their files, so for bfq we had to
>>>>>> prepend the "bfq" prefix to each of its files. However no legacy code
>>>>>> uses these modified file names. This naming also causes confusion, as,
>>>>>> e.g., in [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now cfq has gone with legacy blk, so there is no need any longer for
>>>>>> these prefixes in (the never used) bfq names. In view of this fact, this
>>>>>> commit removes these prefixes, thereby enabling legacy code to truly
>>>>>> use the proportional share policy in blk-mq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/7057
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, but isn't this a user-space facing interface and thus some sort of ABI?
>>>>> Do you know what's using it and what breaks due to this conversion?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, but AFAIK, the problem is exactly the opposite: nobody uses these
>>>> names for the proportional-share policy, or wants to use these names.  I'm
>>>> CCing Lennart too, in case he has some improbable news on this.
>>>>
>>>> So the idea is to align names to what people expect, possibly before
>>>> more confusion arises.
>>>
>>> OK, crazy idea, not sure if Jens and Tejun will beat me for this, but
>>> symlinks?
>>>
>>> This way we can a) keep the old files and b) have them point to the new (a.k.a
>>> cfq style) files.
>>
>> I did consider that, and that would be doable. But honestly, I'm having a
>> hard time seeing what issue we are attempting to fix by doing this.
>>
> 
> The problem is ~100% of people and software believing to set weights and not doing it.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what that means?

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-08 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-08 14:39 [PATCH 0/1] bfq: remove prefixes from cgroup filenames Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/1] block, bfq: delete "bfq" prefix " Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 14:49   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-04-08 14:54     ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 15:01       ` Jens Axboe
2019-04-08 15:04       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-04-08 15:05         ` Jens Axboe
2019-04-08 15:06           ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 15:11             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2019-04-08 15:15               ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 15:08           ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-04-08 15:13             ` Jens Axboe
2019-04-08 15:19               ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 15:14             ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-08 15:17               ` Jens Axboe
2019-04-08 17:01                 ` Paolo Valente
2019-04-10 11:42           ` Ulf Hansson
2019-09-09  7:31 [PATCH 0/1] block, bfq: remove bfq prefix from cgroups filenames Paolo Valente
2019-09-09  7:31 ` [PATCH 1/1] block, bfq: delete "bfq" prefix from cgroup filenames Paolo Valente

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