From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Return-Path: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181030230624.61834-1-evgreen@chromium.org> <1540943443.196084.131.camel@acm.org> <1541174532.196084.146.camel@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <1541174532.196084.146.camel@acm.org> From: Evan Green Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 12:35:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] loop: Better discard for block devices To: bvanassche@acm.org Cc: Gwendal Grignou , axboe@kernel.dk, asavery@chromium.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM Bart Van Assche wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 15:44 -0700, Gwendal Grignou wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:15 AM Evan Green wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:50 PM Bart Van Assche wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 16:06 -0700, Evan Green wrote: > > > > > This series addresses some errors seen when using the loop > > > > > device directly backed by a block device. The first change plumbs > > > > > out the correct error message, and the second change prevents the > > > > > error from occurring in many cases. > > > > > > > > Hi Evan, > > > > > > > > Can you provide some information about the use case? Why do you think that > > > > it would be useful to support backing a loop device by a block device? Why > > > > to use the loop driver instead of dm-linear for this use case? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bart, > > > In our case, the Chrome OS installer uses the loop device to map > > > slices of the disk that will ultimately represent partitions [1]. I > > > believe it has been doing install this way for a very long time, and > > > has been working well. It actually continues to work, but on block > > > devices that don't support discard operations, things are a tiny bit > > > bumpy. This series is meant to smooth out those bumps. As far as I > > > knew this was a supported scenario. > > > > > > -Evan > > > [1] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/installer/+/master/chromeos-install > > > > The code has moved to > > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform2/+/master/installer/chromeos-install > > but the idea is the same. We create a loop device to abstract the > > persistent destination. The destination can be a block device or a > > file. The later case is used for creating master images to be flashed > > on memory chip before soldering on the production line. > > It is handy when the final device is 4K block aligned but the builder > > is using 512b block aligned device, we can mount a device over a file > > that will behave like the real device we will flash the image on. > > Hi Evan and Gwendal, > > Since this is a new use case for the loop driver you may want to add a test > for this use case to the blktests project. Many block layer contributors run > these tests to verify their own block layer changes. Contributing a blktests > test for this new use case will make it easier for others to verify that > their changes do not break your use case. > Good idea. Thanks Bart. > Bart.