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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, stefanha@redhat.com, israelr@nvidia.com,
	nitzanc@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] virtio-blk: avoid preallocating big SGL for data
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 20:08:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aea59bb1-23c2-fed0-f032-07444d319b00@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ee9405e-733f-30f5-aee2-26b74fbc9cfc@nvidia.com>

On 9/1/21 4:25 PM, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 
> On 9/1/2021 6:27 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 9/1/21 8:58 AM, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>> On 9/1/2021 5:50 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:14:34PM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>>>> No need to pre-allocate a big buffer for the IO SGL anymore. If a device
>>>>> has lots of deep queues, preallocation for the sg list can consume
>>>>> substantial amounts of memory. For HW virtio-blk device, nr_hw_queues
>>>>> can be 64 or 128 and each queue's depth might be 128. This means the
>>>>> resulting preallocation for the data SGLs is big.
>>>>>
>>>>> Switch to runtime allocation for SGL for lists longer than 2 entries.
>>>>> This is the approach used by NVMe drivers so it should be reasonable for
>>>>> virtio block as well. Runtime SGL allocation has always been the case
>>>>> for the legacy I/O path so this is nothing new.
>>>>>
>>>>> The preallocated small SGL depends on SG_CHAIN so if the ARCH doesn't
>>>>> support SG_CHAIN, use only runtime allocation for the SGL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Re-organize the setup of the IO request to fit the new sg chain
>>>>> mechanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> No performance degradation was seen (fio libaio engine with 16 jobs and
>>>>> 128 iodepth):
>>>>>
>>>>> IO size      IOPs Rand Read (before/after)         IOPs Rand Write (before/after)
>>>>> --------     ---------------------------------    ----------------------------------
>>>>> 512B          318K/316K                                    329K/325K
>>>>>
>>>>> 4KB           323K/321K                                    353K/349K
>>>>>
>>>>> 16KB          199K/208K                                    250K/275K
>>>>>
>>>>> 128KB         36K/36.1K                                    39.2K/41.7K
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Israel Rukshin <israelr@nvidia.com>
>>>> Could you use something to give confidence intervals maybe?
>>>> As it is it looks like a 1-2% regression for 512B and 4KB.
>>> 1%-2% is not a regression. It's a device/env/test variance.
>>>
>>> This is just one test results. I run it many times and got difference by
>>> +/- 2%-3% in each run for each sides.
>>>
>>> Even if I run same driver without changes I get 2%-3% difference between
>>> runs.
>>>
>>> If you have a perf test suite for virtio-blk it will be great if you can
>>> run it, or maybe Feng Li has.
>> You're adding an allocation to the hot path, and a free to the
>> completion hot path. It's not unreasonable to expect that there could be
>> performance implications associated with that. Which would be
>> particularly evident with 1 segment requests, as the results would seem
>> to indicate as well.
> 
> but for sg_nents <= 2 there is no dynamic allocation also in this patch 
> exactly as we do in nvmf RDMA and FC for example.

My quick read missed that, which is why you're using chaining. Then it
looks very reasonable to me.

>> Probably needs better testing. A profile of a peak run before and after
>> and a diff of the two might also be interesting.
> 
> I'll run ezfio test suite with stronger virtio-blk device that reach > 
> 800KIOPs

That'd be better, and preferably a test with pinning etc so that you can
show more consistent results. Just reading your table does indeed look
like there's a performance degradation, even if you preface it by saying
there is none. It would need better explaining, but preferably better
testing.

>> The common idiom for situations like this is to have an inline part that
>> holds 1-2 segments, and then only punt to alloc if you need more than
>> that. As the number of segments grows, the cost per request matters
>> less.
> 
> isn't this the case here ? or am I missing something ?

it totally is, I was the one missing that.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01 13:14 [PATCH v3 1/1] virtio-blk: avoid preallocating big SGL for data Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-01 14:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-01 14:58   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-01 15:27     ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-01 22:25       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-02  2:08         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-09-02 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-09-02 12:41   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-06 15:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-09-10  6:32   ` Feng Li
2021-09-13 14:50   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-14 12:22     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-09-23 13:40       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-23 15:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-22  9:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-24 14:31           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-27 11:59 ` Christoph Hellwig

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